• Pablomalaysia (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Zulkifli Abdullah (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Please review and approve my submission as soon as possible, thank you for your helpPablomalaysia (talk) 01:38, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pablomalaysia (talk) 01:38, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pablomalaysia, Greetings. Please see comments left on the draft article as it needs to rework. Please do not remove the declined messages and comments as mentioned to you twice before. The backlog of for AfC is about eight weeks and submitted article are in the poll of review. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 18:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Conor hollywood (talk · contribs)

Hi. My article was reviewed and declined. I was wondering if you could have a look at it and tell me what needs to be changed? thank you Conor hollywood (talk) 12:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Conor hollywood (talk · contribs)

HI. My article was reviewed and declined. I was wondering if you could tell me what changes need to be made for it to pass a review. Thank you Conor hollywood (talk) 12:04, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Conor hollywood: - Hi, you'll need to state and preferably link to whichever draft it is you want to discuss - you have more than one draft, so I wasn't able to just add it for you. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, the article is Draft:African Microfinance Week Conor hollywood (talk) 07:22, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Skv1982 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:FREEandCLEAR (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, an article I submitted on a company called FREEandCLEAR was rejected and the reviewer cited "Need more sources discussing the company, not articles the company produces." None of the ten articles I referenced were produced by the company but rather by multiple credible, third party sources including the Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, Mortgage Professionals of America (MPA), MReport and Inman. These last three sources are real estate and mortgage publications which establish credibility and significance in the subject's field. I modeled my submission after several other similar articles on Wikipedia so I am not sure why it was rejected. I have also posted this question to the reviewer's talk page but any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. This is my first time submitting to Wikipedia and I made every effort to follow the guidelines so please let me know what I should do differently. Thank you, -skv1982

Skv1982 (talk) 19:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold pending paid editing disclosure, see User talk:Skv1982#Declare any connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:52, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your declaration, Skv1982. The Washington Post and Chicago Tribune articles are not about the company per se. They quote company representatives and reports by or for the company, sources that are not independent of the company. Trade publications generally don't help establish notability because of their limited audience and often too-cozy relationship with companies in the industry they cover. The most relevant guidelines is WP:NCORP.

The problem with modeling a draft after existing articles is that Wikipedia is forever a work in progress. It contains high quality articles and poor quality articles. The existence of articles that do not meet Wikipedia's policies and guidelines does not mean they have been in any way "approved". It may simply mean that no one has gotten around to deleting them yet. They are not a good excuse to create more such articles. The essay WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS may help you understand why. If you wish to learn from example articles, be sure to use only Wikipedia's best. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:57, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]