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I'm not sure removing the background in this instance would be an improvement. You'll still have the general darkness of the pitcher and all the reflections of the surroundings. As it is (especially for such a small article) I think the image is groovy just the way it is. JBarta (talk) 20:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Request: Hi, I was wondering if you could improve this photo (File:GCHSFront.png) of my high school.' Its pretty grainy. I'm not sure if this is what you do, but it would be appreciated if it could be improved in any way.
Addendum: I also altered the width of the image displayed on your schools page to match the width of the original image (248px). This will prevent the image from resizing and the image will look crisper in the article. JBarta (talk) 03:14, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Request: Please clean up noise, grain, and slight distortion on first and second images - and, on 2nd image, please remove blue hand-written ink. Man on the Roof (talk) 19:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
I cleaned up the second image a little. At some point this image has been fairly highly compressed and permanent damage was done (most likely crappy settings with the scanner software). It's a grand old photo, and if it can be re-scanned into a high resolution low compression jpg, that would be good. Jpeg compression is a wonderful tool, but most people either compress too little or too much. Too little is no big deal, too much can ruin a digital image permanently. Also, it appears as if at some point (possibly when the image was originally developed) the faces appear to have been lightened. It's most prominent on the guy on the left. JBarta (talk) 06:08, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I took a look at the first image. To an even greater extent, it has been decimated by excess jpeg compression. I'm not so sure it can be improved by any substantial degree. Again, if these images can be re-scanned and re-uploaded, (or if the scans are good, re-uploading them before they were so heavily compressed) then efforts to improve them would yield much more satisfying results. (garbage in >> garbage out) JBarta (talk) 07:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks *very* much for the help, Jbarta. (I'm a beginner-intermediate (?) level graphics editor of images for my website (Learning Practical Turkish), using Paint Shop Pro. I have a copy of Photoshop, but have almost never used it. If you don't mind sharing your 'secrets'...What graphic program/tool/technique did you use to get rid of the blue ink? P.S. I'll investigate the possibility of a re-scan for both photos. In the meantime, I'll use the new/existing versions that you worked on. Again, thanks.
For removing the blue marker, by far the most important tool was a clone brush. Most good graphic apps have them. (Keep in mind, my results are amateurish and somewhat hurried. A real pro taking his time could achieve significantly superior results.) JBarta (talk) 16:14, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
OK. Nice job. I use the combination 'clone brush/scratch remover' tool a lot too (in Paint Shop Pro), but I thought maybe you used a 'magic wand' to isolate the blue in its own layer...and then made the layer disappear. I wonder if that would work? Thanks very much again for your help and explanation of your work.
I gave it an amateurish shot. I didn't want to attempt smoothing it out too much for fear of destroying detail. I did manage to clean it up a bit, got rid of a few imperfections, desaturated it a bit and recolored those blue socks! Still, I'm sure a better job could be done by someone with more expertise. (Also note, the image description and the image caption in the article have this image as being from 1996. Might want to check that.) JBarta (talk) 02:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
I tried to clean it up a bit more thoroughly. It's far from perfect, but should be an improvement. What do you think? —Quibik (talk) 00:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Request: Like most important cities, they nowadays have collages. Milan does have one, but which has been proposed for deletion and is a badly arranged collage. I would please like to have these images put for a collage.--Theologiae (talk) 15:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Just out of curiosity, I looked around in the MOS for any guidelines on collages. Surprisingly, I found none. I suppose I'll offer an opinion then. I tend to think collages are unencyclopedic. I think grouping images in a gallery is good, peppering an article with relevant images is good, but simply pasting a bunch together for the sake of trying to make a stylish picture is not good and just adds unencyclopedic clutter. I would hate to see a trend in that direction. Anyone else have any thoughts on the matter? JBarta (talk) 20:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Request: Improve resolution and crop out text and side illustration of flowers leaving only the illustration of the girl in the garden. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 03:10, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Image use policy#Rules of thumb #7 discusses that. I guess I should have stayed with PNG, but the optimization wizard in photoshop was making the PNG twice as large as the "high quality" JPG, so that is what I based my choice on. I'd be glad to redo this as a PNG if you, or anyone else, prefers. -Andrew c[talk]00:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
No, it's lovely as is and makes the other images in the article look murky. Was just curious when/if I download similar images. Thanks again. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I've smoothed the pixels throughout the cloth part so as to create a smoother feel, as well as sharpened the edges a bit and retouched some of the coloring to make it more realistic and less faded in appearance. -CamT|C23:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
After some closer examination, it seemed that what this image needed (besides some retouching) was a lite shadow to help bring out the color, so I've gone ahead and added that in as well, and done a small amount of burning to bring out some of the shadows a bit more. -CamT|C23:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Request: Requesting to change the background to a more neutral color. The current background is kind of "loud", and quite distracting. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Desaturated the background. Original file overwritten but revertable.--Fred the Oyster (talk) 14:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC) Request taken by Fred the Oyster.
Done
Request: This is kind of tricky because it's an incomplete image taken at an angle. Please try to straighten it, even if it means cutting it down to the red center. Thanks. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
I attempted straightening and repairing, but the result was looking just awful. And, if the album cover is going to be displayed, it should be displayed whole (not just the red center). The image you have ain't all that bad. JBarta (talk) 04:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Done Well, it's sort of like putting a dress on a pig... but I cropped off the "border". I suppose it will do until a better image comes along. JBarta (talk) 09:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Rotating will introduce blurriness. Plus, it's so barely crooked, one might consider it more than straight enough. Again, the key would be in finding a better image rather than screwing around with this one too much. JBarta (talk) 17:23, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
What are you looking to improve? It doesn't seem all that bad and I'm not seeing much opportunity for improvement. What are your thoughts? JBarta (talk) 19:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
The "noise" is permanent damage to the image due to excessive jpeg compression, a VERY common (and needless) problem. Also, being a relatively small image, opportunities for improvement are rather limited. I used a tool to eliminate some of the jpeg artifacts and sharpened it just a bit. Unfortunately, that didn't make a whole lot of difference. Again... the image isn't really all that bad as it is. JBarta (talk) 23:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Done The photo is currently in a very common aspect ratio of 4:3. I've uploaded another version with a square (1:1) framing. Since the original framing is very common, and could have a number of uses, I did not want to upload over the original, as they both could be use full on the Commons (or even here). Anyway, now we have two file. Hope this is what you wanted. -Andrew c[talk]16:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
I believe margin, in general, serves an important purpose, and I was internally questioning the reason for your requests. I can understand at thumbnail size, you want the subject to be as big as possible, but I believe that should be balanced between a good margin. When I highlight the thumbnail (so I can tell where the white background ends and the photo starts), it looks appropriate to me. Furthermore, any more shaving would start to cut into the shadows on the bottom, which I think help fulfill the composition. Therefore, I would recommend against further shaving, and if it was to be performed, I'd ask that the original file not be over-written, so that the superior composition could still be accessible. That said, if you still need such a closely cropped version, I'd reluctantly create one at say File:Kielbasa7 (cropped).jpg. -Andrew c[talk]15:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
There doesn't seem to be an option on the page for me to. I'm pretty bad with working out uploads, so I may just not see it, but it's not in the normal location on the pages. -CamT|C14:07, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
That's because the file is actually hosted on the Commons, and you have to click the "description page there" link towards the top of the page in order to get to the Commons (and once at the Commons, you will have the "upload new version of this file" link). -Andrew c[talk]19:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
That said, the original image is in 4:3 aspect ratio, and perhaps it would be useful to keep both (see my citrus fruit post above). Slides (which may be an outdated technology), SDTV, and a number of other formats prefer 4:3, and it is a common standard, so there may be useful applications of a file in that ratio. -Andrew c[talk]19:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm assuming you wanted a PNG, and a transparent background. I've gone and softened the edges for you as well if you're planning to add a background in. -CamT|C22:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done: Hows this crop? I tried to retain as much as possible but it was difficult with that gradient blending around the image, which I removed. Fallschirmjäger20:03, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
The arrival at the 1920 Cario Conference of Sir Herbert Samuel, H.B.M. high commissioner, etc. Col. Lawrence, Emir Abdullah, Air Marshal Sir Geoffrey Salmond and Sir Wyndham Deedes.
You say "far right". There appear to be 4 people specifically named in the photo, the last being Sir Wyndham Deedes. By the photo's description I take him to be the man in the black suit with the gold chain around his middle. But he is not on the "far right". The chap with the cap is on the far right. Would you please clarify? JBarta (talk) 22:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for being late getting back to you. Deedes is the army officer on the far right of the image. I know it isn't the best picture but it is the only one I can find. Gaia Octavia AgrippaTalk |Sign11:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Request taken by Wine Guy.. Since he's so far toward the edge a full body image is going to be an odd aspect ratio, so I'll do both a full body and a head shot. Wine Guy~Talk17:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Done: On both images I blurred the man behind Deedes right shoulder to better focus on Deedes. The blur is noticeable at full resolution, but should be fine at the size used in articles. A bit of general cleanup was done as well. Hope one of these works for you. Wine Guy~Talk18:53, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Request: Upload, [1], crop the top of the photo and the left side a bit and blur or remove/blank out the backround. Please and thank you - Tyughjbn (talk) 17:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Working on it, I need the practice with GIMP anyway. In the future, it might be nice to upload the original here first before making a request. Wine Guy~Talk01:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Request: Hi, I was wondering if you could re-upload and crop this photo of Tim Hudak, can you please crop it so that the only thing left would just be him in his suit with everything else would be cropped out.
Request: Since I've converted the typed caption into a wiki-formatted table on the file description page, that red text can be cropped out (though it may be worth uploading as a new image to preserve the original?). There are also some scratches and dust marks that could be cleanup up a bit, as well as an odd reflective blur on the far left side. bahamut0013wordsdeeds16:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
There's a lot of work that needs to be done if you're looking to remove all of the blemishes. I've done what I can, as well as retouched the image so as to provide some better color and detail and try to obscure the dust particles a bit more by blending them into the background (more or less). Let me know what you think. -Regards, -CamT|C05:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Also as a note, the man on the left (who was in the glare) was retouched by simply replicating the right side of his face and blending it in. I know that it isn't an exact copy on that part, and it's going to take more time for me to get that down better. -CamT|C05:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, it looks good thus far. The only remaining thing that I'm overly concerned with is that horizontal line going across the knees of the front row on the left. bahamut0013wordsdeeds13:41, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Right, that is a weird one, and I tried working with it, but I'm not really sure what I can do. Someone else may want to take a look at it. I was thinking about just cloning but I'm afraid that too much detail would be lost.-CamT|C14:08, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Done: Cleaned up the line and blotches in the bottom left, and also the worst of the discoloration in the upper left and a couple other spots. I think this is as good as it's going to get without going through the entire image pixel by pixel. Could you please try to track down the source from the original uploader, it would be nice if this doesn't get deleted. Wine Guy~Talk21:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Trust you to pick one with no license :P. I'm presuming it's PD anyway. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 01:34, 17 March 2010 (UTC) Request taken by Fred the Oyster. Done
Done There's still a bright spot on his forehead, but that area is completely white (overexposed) in the original, not a lot that can be done with that easily. Wine Guy~Talk01:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I took the liberty of re-doing the image by colour correcting, sharpening, using a custom mask to alter the over-exposure on the forehead and finally removing some lint from his coat. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 02:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
It's a combination of digital noise and moire pattern distortion. Basically a mix of the weave, a low quality camera and a lot of jpeg compression all interacting with each other. Virtually impossible to get rid of, especially given the resolution of the image. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 03:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Comment: Excuse me for butting in Kintetsubuffalo, (I am editing this article heavily, hence my interest) try this link. The pic in the article was a much closer shot a day ago, but someone changed it. Regards, --220.101.28.25 (talk) 19:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I tried to do it without cropping though there is now a slight colour discrepancy on the right-hand side. If this isn't acceptable, let me know and I'll crop it instead. I also sorted a band of shading about 3/4 of the way across from the left. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 13:32, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Ruminaglass.: Removed background and converted to png. Do let me know if you think that the edges need smoothening 18:08, 21 March 2010 Done
Request: Please crop out both sides to produce a vertical image; I'm planning to use this next to another vertical image, so I'd like both to have the same shape. Please upload under a new name, such as "Holy Family Church, Frenchtown, vertical.jpg", since the horizontal image is presently in use in settings where it's better than my proposed vertical image would be. Nyttend (talk) 02:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Jovianeye. Done
I have cropped it with an aspect ratio of 3X4. (Hope this is what you want) --JovianEye (talk) 04:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
File:PasaporteEspaňol2009.jpg|Done Commons wouldn't accept the existing filename so new version at File:PasaporteEspaHol2009.jpg
File:PasaporteEspaHol2009.jpg|Done Commons wouldn't accept the existing filename so this is the new version -I got it to accept the overwrite, can we delete the duplicate?
File:Taiwan ROC Passport.jpg|Done
File:Togolese passport.png|Done
File:TT Passport.jpg|Done
File:Turkish Passport.jpg|Done (repaired rip too)
File:BiometricVenPassport.jpg|Done There's too many distortions in too many planes to get it aligned properly. The top text needed 0.55°, the CoA needs 1.43° and the bottom text needs 1.93°. I went with the top as the others distorted too much.
File:Vietnam passport 1998.JPG|Done
File:1. World Passport (Cover).jpg|Done
File:Passport of Saudi Arabia.jpg remove watermark Done
Request: Crop the photo on the left and right sides to focus in on her and also try to increase the brightness level a bit. Thank you - Tyughjbn (talk) 2:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Request: As a way of tidying up the appearance of the Related portals sections of these portals, it would be good to create a standard shape of icon. I propose that these portraits of authors be cropped into a uniform oval shape, the proportions of which would be based on the Chandos Portrait of William Shakespeare (above, in colour). Ham11:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Fred the Oyster. Done
Request: Crop the photo to focus in on his on him and also try to fix the brightness and exposure level. Thanks - Tyughjbn (talk) 16:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)