Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Images to improve/Archive/Apr 2008 Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Images_to_improve/Archive/Apr_2008
This page, part of the Graphics Lab Wikiproject, is an archive of requests for April 2008.
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As nice as it looks, this is a logo—I don't think it could have been vectorized; yours is a derivative work :( We'd have to find a vector version that's already available, such as in a club PDF. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: There's something odd about this image when you look at it at full resolution - I realise there's probably some paper texture there, but the chromatics look a little off, like there's some chromatic aberration. What do you think? -- Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: There is indeed something going on. I really don't know what it is either. Perhaps the original painting is on canvas, and that's whats showing through. Removing the yellows gives this, (although I'm not sure Utagawa Kuniyoshi would consider it an improvement.) Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄01:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Not sure - some of the yellows are clearly intentional - maybe we could combine the images? By the way, I was fiddling about with a half-toned image, and think it might be badly-fixed half-toning, as I got a similar effect. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 16:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: SVGify all three, also, the eagle on the badge should be the one from the Scout flag (second image), not the national flag. The badge on the Scout flag is more correct in color and proportions. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We can't make derivative works of copyrighted material ! Please do not make this kind of request, they will land other users in trouble for copyright violation. If you want an SVG of a non-free logo, you have to find a vector version available already, for example in a PDF document. Jackaranga (talk) 23:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please everyone keep calm. I think we are all trying our best to stay within law on copyrighted material. I guess I don't fully understand what I'm allowed to do and not. If I redraw a logo as a bitmap is this acceptable? We have had quite a number of requests come through the graphics lab with respect to redrawing or vectoring copyrighted logos and my understanding is that it is OK. Anyway, strictly speaking the graphics lab works only on freely licensed images, as stated on the front page. Perhaps we can move this discussion to the talk page, and maybe Jackaranga can cite some previous discussions on the issue. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 00:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Two cents? It is perfectly fine to upload extant vector versions of unfree images. When an unfree image is extracted from a PDF or converted to SVG from EPS or whatever, we are simply processing it. Modifying the content would constitute creating a derivative work, unless modifications were so great as to damage original accuracy and effectively make the new image worthless as a replacement. Fair use doctrine (or whatever you want to call it) protects the right to reproduce a copyrighted work. I do not recreate or vectorize copyrighted images because it goes against my personal principles and my personal set of ethics, if you will. IANAL, and this should perhaps be taken to the Image copyright help desk. Fvasconcellos* (t·c) 01:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I want to thank all of you guys who have saved all of these Scout emblems and made them far better. There is not a Scout association in the world that is going to fault you for improving the graphic representation of their public face. They are not businesses, they are public service organizations, and the ones I have asked of you have been historic ones, or from underdeveloped places that have no website (145 countries) or their information is published in obscure non-English sources. You guys have my constant thanks. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What is the difference between making an exact vector version of a logo and taking the vector version from a PDF apart from the hassle of finding a PDF? Mangwanani (talk) 19:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: Actually, I think that's correct. The white shield in the center and the scroll beneath are both common parts of a coat of arms. The point of the picture is that the OBE circlet can be added to any coat of arms, so I don't think we need to do anything for this. — ʞɔıu18:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think his suggestion was vectory or similar: Viewing the image itself is quite jarring: The banner, etc. were obviously added to a overenlarged circle (Correct if wrong). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 03:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether a vector would be better but the image is hugely pixellated. I have had a play myself but havn't got very far. Mangwanani (talk) 20:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: Can the seals of each respective state (which are requested for deletion BTW, except Connecticut) be vectorized, the elements of each seal can be found in the flag of the respective state, which are all vectorized. Thanks. --escondites13:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reproduction of State Arms and Seal: Please be advised that permission is required to reproduce the state arms and seal under Section 3-106a of the Connecticut General Statutes:
Sec. 3-106a. Reproduction of arms and seal. The official arms and seal of the State of Connecticut, or imitation thereof, whether as a reproduction, imprint or facsimile, shall be made and used only under the direction and with the approval of the Secretary of the State for purposes specifically authorized by the constitution and laws of the state or related directly or indirectly to the official business of the state, provided the secretary may in his judgment approve other reproductions of said arms or seal of the state for memorials and for purposes he considers educational.
To request permission to reproduce the "state arms and/or seal", please write to Connecticut Secretary of the State, Legislation and Elections Administration Division, 30 Trinity Street, Hartford, CT 06106
http://www.kids.ct.gov/kids/cwp/view.asp?a=2731&q=314190
Delaware
§ 2306. Use of Great Seal and Privy Seal; restrictions; reproduction of seals and other insignia subject to approval; penalties.
(a) The Secretary of State as the keeper of the Great Seal and the Privy Seal shall restrict the use of the Great Seal and the Privy Seal to documents, records, publications and other business transactions of the State.
(b) The seals, coat of arms, state flag, emblems and other insignia of this State may be used, reproduced or published with the written consent of the Secretary of State, provided that use is restricted to educational uses such as encyclopedias, reference books, historical publications or similar uses which do not involve advertising or other means of personal gain or which abrogate the rights of the citizenry of the State.
http://delcode.delaware.gov/title29/c023/index.shtml#P64_2169
They will need to be contacted, in writing, and I would guess their response will be to send a rather low resolution image.
Didn't we go through the same thing with all the Federal agency logos (EG. CIA, FBI, DoD, etc.)? They say "Don't reproduce us", but there's a exemption in the law that covers us? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any art or text produced by the federal government, federal agencies, or their employees is in the Public Domain (although not necessarily available to the public for privacy or security reasons), works produced by State governments are not necessarily in the Public Domain, it depends on the State. At least this is what I believe to be the case. However on the commons they don't seem to care, there are insignia and flags from all over the world marked as Public Domain, even though there is no legal basis for the claim. It seems acceptable to just use GFDL Self, I have tried to get these deleted before but people thought I was trolling, and turned a blind eye, so it's probably OK. Take Image:Flag of Kosovo.svg for example, the claim that the flag of Kosovo was invented by a random person on the internet is laughable, yet nobody cares. Just do the same for these seals. Jackaranga (talk) 02:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Seals are a special case as they can be used to deceive people that a person or organization is in some related to the government. Therefore many state regulate their use. A federal Law exempting educatioinal use of federal symbols is unlikely to apply to the states. It's a matter of going through one at a time. I'm find some that states that post large images for the public to use, and others where it is a felony to reproduce the seal with authorization. Some carefully describe the colors, and others seem not to care. The incomplete list is here. You are welcome to check my work or to contribute.
Eventually we arrive at a list of a dozen or so states that must be contacted. Get it into a nice form with address and so forth. Make the amount of work left minimal. Then give it to the dozen or so real people who work for WP. Hopefully it will come back with images we are allowed to use. I don't think any state will refuse, but I suspect that many of these will supply a low resolution image, and not allow anything better.
If done improperly we could have a deletionist find one without a required permission and mindlessly nominate all for deletion. The list isn't too far away from making the proper requests easy to make. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄07:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: I'd like to see this converted using a better quality map of Arabia that we have on Wikipedia into an SVG. This would remove a tenuous fair use and we could use that image as a source for the locations. -- grenグレン00:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Such as this map from this page (US gov). Taking a more detailed map like that using Mecca as a basis point if it would be possible to at least make a higher resolution version (vectorizing if you want...) I don't care about color scheme or whatnot as long as it's usable. I think that map looks decen it's just small. The nice thing about SVG would be it would make it relatively easy to change the color scheme to match other maps from the page which in an ideal article would have some coordination. grenグレン08:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: I'm not entirely sure on whether this will help, but I had a go at vectorizing the image. I couldn't get the text to bend because Wikimedia doesn't support it currently, and the spacing doesn't work also. I've released it under GFDL/CC licenses. Tom (talk) 19:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: I request someone make a superior looking version, the current one seems very mspaint-ish.
Here is a external examples of what it sould look like: drawing (sidenote, yes the lions have erect penises)
-- SelfQ (talk) 17:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
I tried to find a map on google, but turned up nothing. If you find any image, non-free or not, with sufficient detail then an svg can be made from it. But the one you posted is a tiny thumbnail, nothing can be done there, sorry. XcepticZP (talk) 20:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, found a good place... [[5]]. Those maps just need to be stitched together and voila. OR, a general svg can be made of the whole ranch. XcepticZP (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So long as we're using the USGS maps (which all of the ones mentioned here are), they're public domain. But yeah, we should be careful of that if we're using a BSA-published map, or something. -- ʞɔıu06:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you need help using Public Domain cartographic information maybe I can help. You can get free elevation data for the USA down to a precision of 30m (I think even 10 for some parts but I have never used this). Jackaranga (talk) 14:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: SVG-ification for legibility, if possible show a larger chunk of the Adriatic and country names so position is clearer? This is currently hardly legible, but the article is linked from ITN on the main page. -- Circeus (talk) 18:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there's a simple way of cropping to a selection like in PS. Simplest way I think is to create a rectangle, move it to the top layer, select all of your objects and rectangle and then go to Object > Clip > Set. The shapes are still outside of the rectangle, they just aren't shown. — ₪₪ch1902₪₪12:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One way to do this is easily is to make the entire drawing, then set the page size to cover the area you want. When the drawing is uploaded to wikipedia or viewed in a browser window, it will only show what is inside the page area. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 03:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: I've had a go. There's some oddites - like that string - that made this image a bit awkward. I had to selectively remove some highlights, and don't think this end result is perfect. I found the levels adjustment a little awkward because the sky kept blowing out whenever I tried to fix the shadowed lower part of the picture. Eh, well. This'll do for tonight. It's actually slightly trapezoidal [or wedge-shaped], so it cannot be made perfectly straight - this isn't uncommon for Victorian engravings - but I tried to compromise. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just a warning: The photograph is very very slightly blurred. Not enough to matter in normal use, but enough that fine details are just a little lighter and more "spread out" than they should be, meaning they could easily be lost or damaged unless any levels adjustment from this point on is extremely careful, and at the least, makes use of masking to protect the more delicate areas. I saved a unadjusted copy, by the way, so if you think this version is too dark, it's not too hard to go back and tweak some more. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It says there that there is not a lot of documentation, save for the white hand and crescent on a red field. "According to Article 2 of the Loi fondamentale de L’île autonome de Ndzuani, «L’île Autonome d’Anjouan dispose de ses propres symboles qui cohabitent avec les symboles de l’Union des Comores. L’emblème de l’île Autonome d’Anjouan est le drapeau rouge frappé au centre d’une main droite ouverte au dessus d’un croissant de couleur blanche.» " Can we find a better source? It looks weird. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I noticed. Drapeau rouge frappé au centre d’une main droite ouverte au dessus d’un croissant de couleur blanche—red field charged with an open right hand above a crescent, all white. Wouldn't "open right hand" suggest thumb pointing right? I'm glad there's no specified finger length :) Fvasconcellos* (t·c) 00:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article(s):
For Wikipedia use, especially the {{welcome}}
Request: -- 210.203.61.15 (talk) 14:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Can someone convert these pdf into SVG, or redo it in SVG.
Since SVG is understood by MediaWiki (display an image) and SVG is easier to translate, that should be really helpful to have them in SVG format. The wikipedia-Logo is not available in SVG, and will need to be deleted.[reply]
Graphist opinion:
All done... Some fonts were messed up, but all in all, i think it looks good. Any problems? Let me know... Please fix the licenses on both vector images. I hate doing that bit, also can you add descriptions? Thanks XcepticZP (talk) 12:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Muahahah !!! Many Thanks !! I will tell the French about this news, to get more translations. You can also encourage your wikipedia to use the english SVG within the {welcome} template. ;) Yug(talk)16:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
...:)Glad you like... PDF --> SVG conversions are incredibly easy for me, so feel free to send those my way any time. If you feel the request has been fulfilled, please change the request to done. Thanks XcepticZP (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
O.O !!! I just noticed that you upload your files on wikipedia english !! => big mistake O.o. That's fine, you just need to know that for all free images you have to upload them on wikimedia commons (see http://commons.wikimedia.org , you need to log in). Also, from now, you will have to upload all your free images on commons to allow ALL wikipedians (like Frenchs like me) to see your images. ;)
^,..,^y really.... ! muahaha ! So I'm sorry to announce that your work is not finish, their are a dozen of such pdf on commons:Category:Wikimedia promotion... (soory... that make lot of work to convert them into pdf.) Please, remember you to categorize them as {{Wiki Cheatsheet}} (add this when you upload your fille on commons this will add the licence template and the category ^__^y) if you continue to convert somes . Don't rush : the French and english ones were the more need, so no worry you stop here. Yug(talk)15:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okays, lol... I guess i'll go do that, then. I, for one, had no idea the other language wiki's had different media databases. Oh well, hehe... XcepticZP (talk) 16:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The vector versions are showing major kerning problems on my system (XP, firefox). I normally don't see many problems with SVGs, so this there any way to fix? Could also convert text to paths, but would have a much larger file size. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 02:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Also opening them in inkscape shows the problem is more than just a browser rendering problem. Why not just stick with the raster version--the need for fast page loads for a welcome message/cheat sheet might outweigh the limitations of not having the vector version. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 02:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do see the problem. It says "Simply dick on the link", among many other problems. . I never quite understood why wikipedia doesn't have solid support for this. And frankly, svg text never comes out right if not converted to path. At least for me, anyways. I think it is readable, though. And I don't see any rendering problem in Illustrator. XcepticZP (talk) 18:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have problems loading the fonts as well -- how large are these with text converted to paths? That would be a useful comparison for laoding. I'm using FF2.0.0.7 on Mac OSX. +sj +03:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Converting to paths with this much text would make the file enormous--too large to serve its intended purpose. These cheatsheets are intended for brand new users, so whatever they're presented with ought to render reliably. Can we close out this request? Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 03:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: I was working on some of these articles and though that someone with some free time could help me and make these flags and that one coa into nice svg files. Cheers. --SelfQ (talk) 22:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks man. The COA look like this in real life by the way: clicky I hope you will agree with me that the current one is completely inacurate. also the yellow dropletts on the hilversum flag follow the same design. again thanks and good luck with the rest of them! --SelfQ (talk) 20:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I dug out one of my old school books and found I had the Zimbabwe Coat of Arms there. Its a bad drawing done when I was small. Does this help for the SVG? Mangwanani (talk) 17:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well someone has vectorised the image. It is, however, not finished. The colours of the kudus aren't quite right, the words need a bullet between them, the wavy lines need to be blue and white, Great Zimbabwe needs more brick work, the gun isnt quite (see the bitmap and the pic from my school book) and the wreath should be green and gold. Additionally, the Zimbabwe bird is wrong. See Image:Zimbabwe Bird.svg for correct version. Mangwanani (talk) 18:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If we can get more bricks onto Great Zimbabwe and make the mielie (corn, maize or other intl variations) to look more grainy then this image is done and dusted. Mangwanani (talk) 18:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lesotho
I've done Lesotho. It seems there was a typo on the scroll on the raster version, according to all other sources I could find the motto is "Khotso, Pula, Nala" not "Khoto, Pula, Nala". It's corrected on the vector version.
The problem was the flowed text. You need to use simple unflowed text (default in Inkscape 0.45.1, I can't get 0.46 yet so don't know whether it is there also). To turn flowed text to unflowed text, use the command on the Text menu. You should also save as a Plain SVG rather than an Inkscape SVG if you are not already doing so. The image doesn't appear fixed yet, as Wikipedia seems to be having trouble with thumbnailing (despite purging the cache, the thumbnail still won't correct itself), but this rendering:
When you have a simple drawing like this, it's often useful to convert the text to paths, because this will prevent a number of other rendering errors. For example, if the user changes the default text size, the drawing's text will change unless you convert to paths. The disadvantage would be that the file size is bigger, but in this case this is a trivial concern; only when you have lots of text would it matter. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 19:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You also lose the ability to edit the text easily. I can't say I've noticed the issue you described - does this only occur when the SVG is actually embedded in the page, rather than rendered to PNG on the server? Stannered (talk) 20:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, with only a few letters, the ability to edit is not too much of a loss. The general solution to the problem of lost editability is to embed the text version in a hidden layer, though I have never had to resort to this strategy. The errors I usually see with text occur when you view in full size (for me, ffox and XP); the wikimedia thumbnail renderer usually does a good job (though not perfectly). Another problem with not converting text to paths is that the user has to have the right font installed on their machine; the inkscape default font is, I think, bitstream vera sans which is not a standard font for everyone. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 02:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True enough... I use Opera and find the SVG rendering satisfactory when viewed at full size - when using Opera's zoom feature it resizes the entire image rather than just the text (the S in SVG is for scalable, after all), but it's not perfect (doesn't seem to antialias at all). Neither is the Wikimedia renderer - see issues described at commons:Commons talk:Transition to SVG. Stannered (talk) 12:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: The one there now is from [8], I modified it myself. But [9] is a source that could be used to replace the image. Or better yet (this is why I'm asking here) take the image from here [10] (First result with google search "Uranie riphée" for me), arrange the colors, remove the "new" writing, and upload the result. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 15:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
See also In Google Books. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 21:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: the actual arms is closer to the brown/red first variant, seal shaped in keeping with US territories of the time. Can the two ideas be combined to create the proper version? -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: To make SVG versions of the above images. Its a lot to ask and if it can't be done, it can't be done. The flags can be made using the coats of arms once an SVG has been made for them so no need to make the COAs twice. The writing on the Chitungwiza Banner should read Pamberi Nekushandria Pamwe. The Bulawayo flag is the Bulwayo COA on a blue bkgd. It looks different in the image above but use the image as in the COA as this is the proper version. SVG Zimbabwe COA and enlarge for clarity if possible. Many thanks Mangwanani (talk) 17:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
OK, the MDC flag was easy. Some of these coats of arms, however, are at a low resolution—I'm concerned about losing detail if we try to vectorize them. That may just be me, though :) Why is the Chitungwiza COA tagged as a logo? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of them are tagged as logos probably because when I uploaded them I couldn't find the right tag. To be fair they are logos in a sense... I thought the low resolution may be a problem but if it can't be done, it can't be done. The Bulawayo one is of a high resolution and the flag for it can be made by sticking the logo onto a blue background. The flag that is shown above for the Blwo flag I don't think is right as I never remember seeing the flag with a logo like that so I would stick to the logo shown as I got that off official documentation. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I used the color approximations listed at the Commons' Pantone approximation chart for British flag colours, they would look a bit different than those used in the GIF. They'll look closer to what you expect depending on monitor settings—for instance, if I set the color temperature of my LCD display to 6500K, the Air Force ensign looks teal, and if I set it to 9300K, the flag looks sort of a sky blue. The colors I chose are used by most SVGs of British-style ensigns, which makes for more consistency across articles; I can change them if you'd like, though. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No its fine if theres a standard way of doing it. I'm still new to all this but you have a way of working which works so I shall try not to interefere! I still don't know about the Rhodesian flag and COA which was done some time back. I still think the COA looks too green... Mangwanani (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added an older insignia to the airforce collection. It seems most of the examples I saw had a ratio of 1:2. Is this generally correct for this type of flag? aliasd·U·T04:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
FOUL, TIME OUT, WHOA!!! jackaranga, why are you not tagging these with the proper {{Non-free symbol}} tag? That's what it's there for, and it's a lot less deletionist and confrontational than tagging them for deletion. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to make the Zim COA (see below) and once that's made it can be used for a whole host of other images but I'm struggling as my knowledge of Vector graphics is so limited...Mangwanani (talk) 19:54, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Man, the lack of resolution in this map is really frustrating, and it's not sourced. Also, I have found information online that says that the Song Thrush is quite well-established in Australia and New Zealand. I'm wondering if we shouldn't just ditch this map altogether and wait for someone to come up with something more accurate.— ʞɔıu07:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:Done. It's not perfect, but I had to rebuild that right pillar using bits from all over. Let me know what you think, I can do more if need be. Sorry about the delay, but I've been busy. I just assumed someone else here would do it. Please don't hesitate to post more requests. XcepticZP (talk) 18:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: The image was poorly converted to SVG from original - reconversion/redrawing needed please. The tracing has mucked up bits like the point at the bottom, and the shadows. The worst part is that the lines are extremely rough (traced over aliasing) - they need to be completely smooth if possible. Even if that means redrawing. The SVG also has loads of extraneous lines and shapes that aren't needed, and thumbnails very badly (as seen above) - the gradients should be duplicated from the PNG. Thanks, SVG graphists.—Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ13:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
I have redrawn the whole thing except for the text. I started to redraw the text but I decided it was too much work since I'm sure that font exists somewhere but I don't have it. So if somebody could add the text to this it would be complete: Image:Discworld-unseen-university-amoswolfe-2.svg Note that I have left the raster embedded which you should removed after it is finished. Also I used the blur effect for the shadows but I'm not sure if Mediawiki will render this properly (Firefox doesn't), so that might need to be removed. -- Borb (talk) 18:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Opinion: I would just like to mention how ironic it is to have an olive branch-wielding dove be on the CoA for half of Cyprus. When it comes to their symbolism, the Cypriots don't fuck around! :-)— ʞɔıu07:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I made a start to vectorising this but it just needs more detail added now and I don't really know how to do it since the image is so low resolution. It doesn't look like this was originally a vector image, looks more like a painting. Hopefully this can be useful to somebody who wants to continue working on it but I can't get any further: [[:]] I left the raster image embedded so you can continue working with the raster at the size I had it at. -- Borb (talk) 15:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: -- There are hundreds of these to be converted to svg. Perhaps there is an easy way to do this? Any help appreciated, thanks :) 137.215.6.50 (talk) 17:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
Are all these really necessary? It seems to me that just having one or two as examples would be enough. Apart from that though, having a base SVG without a number and then using a template something like Template:GBthumb to overlay a number would be better both in terms of number of images and ease of use on pages. Time3000 (talk) 17:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully, the wiki software supports the font which is used, we can then create a script to make all the files, but we will need a bot flag to upload them all or it will take forever, and may cause problems for a user if he were to upload them without a flag. Jackaranga (talk) 01:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1.Create the first SVG (download the correct font) (leave the numbers as text)
2.Write a script to create all the files (incrementing the number in each one)
3.Convert the number in each file to a path using the Inkscape command line (because Mediawiki doesn't have the correct font installed for the SVG rendering)
Any chance of that script being able to center the text object on the shield as well? :D Incrementing the numbers will invariably make the text asymmetrical from one file to another if it's not centered. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In Inkscape when you choose "centre lines" in the "text and font" properties window, the text stays centred, like in Word when you use the centre tool. Jackaranga (talk) 20:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know; it's just that I've gotten some sketchy results in the past from using text properties. Oh well, maybe it was just me. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: When you say rotate so that they are vertically aligned do you want them straigtened up or put one on top of the other? I'm a little confused here. Mangwanani (talk) 17:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just funny sounding language. As far as I understand his words, I think he wants you to just rotate the individual ipods so that the edges of the ipods are at right angles to the edges of the image. XcepticZP (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This could also use some perspective correction. It's certainly doable, but removing the background will make the picture look wonky. Friendly note to photographer—if you had something white lying around to cover the carpet with, that would have made things a whole lot easier :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 21:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here it's: Removed background, Set the battery indicator to 100% on both, removed now playing on 6G, removed now pause indicator, removed some "stuff" from select button, tried to remove fingerprints, rotated them so the align, and some minor color correction. If someone could just remove the fingerprints, we had one less task. --Henrikb4 (talk) 19:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've got something put together. What do you guys think? Are these colors OK? I wish I knew how to crop in Inkscape…— ʞɔıu08:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Basically two ways—you can use a clipping path (create a crop-sized rectangle, place above the paths you'd like to crop, select all, do Object > Clip > Set) or Boolean intersection (create a crop-sized rectangle, place above the paths you'd like to crop, select all, do Path > Intersection, repeat until all paths are cropped). The latter method is far more complicated, but can produce smaller file sizes in some cases. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: Hello, I would like to know if it were possible to make three charts, one with the rate arborisation by city and other, the various types species (trees) in the areas (in Portugal) and the last with all the zones left in fume (fire).
Bonjour, je voudrais savoir si il était possible de faire trois cartes, une avec le taux d'arborisation par commune et l'autre, les différents types d'espèces (d'arbres) dans les régions (au Portugal) et la dernière avec toutes les zones partit en fumées (feu).
Graphist opinion:
Cropped everything except the main firework explosion. Fixed color and brightness. Reduced blur slightly. Reduced jpg file size with no loss in quality. I think it looks much better now. But if someone is willing, a SVG firework explosion could be designed as a replacement for this image. XcepticZP (talk) 18:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I really like the ethereal quality of this image now that you've modified it. But since its status on Commons is up for grabs, that may not be a bad idea. Please proceed. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It would be wrong to convert it to svg, because this is a photograph, and not a diagram or some kind of emblem (flags, medals, etc.). It would say it would be wrong to make it a svg-image.
I don't think it has to be of this specific event, just of a firework exploding. Also, the comment about SVGifying this is a suggestion to create a SVG image of a fireburst based on this, not to actually SVG this... 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The lesser coats are all the same (SVG and raster), but could you add the various dangling orders to the SVG of the greater coat and upload it as a new file? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: -- For some reason the image renders perfectly in both Internet Explorer and Opera, but it's horribly unusable when used on Wikipedia pages, whether included full size or thumbnailed (can be seen at the above link and by clicking through the Image: page). Some text is being omitted, half the image is covered by rectangles. It's been requested for discussion but can't be used in this state and I can't see how to fix it. Can anyone take a look at it and figure how to make a version that mediawiki will render correctly in a Wikipedia page? It's not very complicated as svg's go. Thanks! FT2(Talk | email)18:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
The problem was that in some places the font size was being scaled to 120% of the original size, but ImageMagick (MediaWiki's rendering engine) was interpreting this as a literal 120 point (I think) - the black boxes were actually letters. I've fixed that, and partially fixed the problem with the overlayed text when it's rendered with Gecko, e.g. in Firefox; the problem there was that it wasn't recognising the 'dy="1.4em"' in the tspan elements, but a simple change of units to pixels fixed that. There are still some strange things going on with Gecko, but I'm not sure what to do with those. Time3000 (talk) 12:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: Perhaps this can be made into a clearer SVG with an improved colour-scheme. Instead of vs. vs. vs. all the way down, perhaps a nice thin blue line or something... maybe just blank space. -- --SeansPotato Business14:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:Here is a vector version. The label "quenched probe" seems misleading though, because once the probe is separated from the quencher it is no longer quenched. Please let me know if this is satisfactory, it probably could be improved but I would like input on what to do. Also need to convert the text to paths, which I will do on the next update. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 21:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I think the diagram may have been poorly thought out to begin with. I think that perhaps what the author was trying to convey was that the quenched probe is added to the target and then cleaved by the exonuclease activity of Taq DNA polymerase.
A couple of other comments; I think it should be 'Quenched probe' and not 'Quenched probe' and perhaps the other phrases ought to begin also with capital letters. Also, the arrows for R* to R appear to be in superscript and I think regular would be easier to read. Thanks again --SeansPotato Business21:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think the superscript problem is caused by the text not being converted to path, once I convert it, it should look OK. I'll take care of the root flow problem as well.
"...should be 'Quenched probe' and not 'Quenched probe'..." huh?
my understanding of these types of probes is that when the fluorophore is near the quencher then there is no visible fluorescence, since it is absorbed by the quencher. Once the quencher is removed by some distance, say by the binding to the target or by being cleaved, then the fluorescence is no longer quenched and is visible. My understanding is that the binding or the enzymatic cleavage are two different ways this can happen. Last year I did some work with the latter type, a FRET assay based on enzymatic cleavage. In that case, the rate of reaction is measured by the rate of fluorescence increase. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 02:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I made those changes and while it looks fine in Inkscape 0.45, in my browser, there's an unexplained black box. If you see it also, perhaps you can suggest what's going on. --SeansPotato Business21:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded new version converting text to paths, this should fix the rendering problem with the arrows. Not sure if this is still giving black boxes as I didn't have a problem to begin with. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 02:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
More Wpdmsery
Resolved
Articels: Many having to do with the Texan independance war, etc.
Oppinion: You can't call these colours glaring, I lifted them off other maps but if they should be different just say. — ₪₪ch1902₪₪17:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have to ask, is there a different color that could be used for the nondisputed part of Texas? It looks excessively similar on the monitor I'm on now (But that could be because this is a questionable institutional monitor...)... 68.39.174.238 (talk) 13:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Uploaded a new version cropping the whitespace. Should be easy, no? For this drawing though, if you use inkscape and go page size -> set to selection or whatever it's called, it will leave the whitespace since the selection is much bigger than the drawing, for whatever reason. So I just set the page size manually, and that should fix it. Except on this one; I don't know why, but sometimes when I do this to drawings by others, the drawing size changes when the page size changes; a glitch probably. In these cases, I import the drawing into a new inkscape document and everything works OK. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 05:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you could say that, Jeff. The article is on a concept in communications delivery, the summary does a pretty good job of explaining it. This article is only used once, on that page. But man, is it ugly.— ʞɔıu07:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
OK, I don't often do much image editing but I was playing around with Inkscape recently and decided to give this a try. I didn't do a lot with the text besides fix the obvious typos and change around the capitalization; if you want something different I can change it easily enough. Note: I haven't made an SVG for the purposes of uploading it to Wikipedia before, so if something's wrong with it please let me know.--Dycedargж19:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just one thing - when inkscape saves SVGs it puts a load of metainfo in with the file (have a look at the SVG code) which increases the file size and generally gets in the way. It's normally better to select "Plain SVG" instead of "Inkscape SVG" in the save dialog so it isn't put in. Time3000 (talk) 19:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, two corrections, if possible: Change "mains" to something more international, EG. "The power grid". Secondly, "Interstate freeways" is nonsense, I suggest "Highways" or something similarly simpler. Thanx, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe something more commonly used than "User internet access", but that's up to you since I can't think of a better description. Also, Internet should probably be capitalized? Thanx. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 17:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I can't really think of anything more common than User Internet access that would make sense there, but I did capitalize Internet. Anyway, since your edit summary was "Last reply!" I'll just go ahead and mark this resolved.--Dycedargж18:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since this will be used as a stub template, I don't know that it matters exessively, but i would suggest against a shadow, since at that size it would just look ugly. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 13:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: I am a complete novice when it comes to SVG, but I tried to make a map and it does not render correctly. I had similar problems in the past and could not find a solution. Can someone tell me how to fix this? I made a PNG export for now, but I would really like to know the reason (so I would not make similar mistakes in the future). Thanks, Renata (talk) 16:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: How's this? If you want text to render correctly, you can only use the fonts listed at meta:SVG fonts. You also chose Bitstream Vera Sans, which doesn't support many special characters; not a good choice for Lithuanian :D I replaced it with DejaVu Sans, which is identical but supports almost any Unicode character. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Looks great. Could you tell me how I can switch the fonts (as I said, I am a complete novice)? Also, what happened to layers? When I go into edit layers, it says there are none... Renata (talk) 17:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The fonts are quite easy to fix. I opened the file in Inkscape, saw which fonts were used where, then used a text editor to replace all instances of the "inappropriate" ones (e.g., I replaced every "Bitstream Vera Sans" with "DejaVu Sans" and every "Bookman Old Style" with "URK Bookman L"). I am so sorry about the layers—I seem to have deleted them inadvertently :P Will fix shortly. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You mean you edited the xml source file? Ok, I think I can do that. As to layers, I don't really mind them gone and I actually liked how it showed. I just don't have a slightest clue how you did that :) Anyway, thank you again, and I'll mark this resolved. Renata (talk) 16:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's what I mean; I don't have a clue as to how I got rid of the layers either :) I restored them before coming back here to check for your reply... Argh. I seem to be having a couple of off days. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 21:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest not using transparency for the country colors, especially considering the sea is in solid blue. Should probably fill in neighboring countries with solid fill too; gray perhaps? Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 16:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good suggestion. I used transparent color only as a workaround: I wanted to display current border prominently, but could not come up with another solution just putting the border on top of everything else. That meant that any color would cover everything else, so I had to make it transparent... Amateur, I know :) Renata (talk) 17:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: -- Could someone please crop this photograph so that it could be used in the Infobox in the Dario Argento article? Additionally if the lighting could be improved--it looks a little dark on my screen, which is quite poor to begin with mind you--and maybe the background "2007" could be removed as well; that would help improve the image a lot. Any help you could offer to make this photograph more suited for the Infobox would be great. And very much appreciated.An Argento Fan (talk) 21:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the SVG'd version of the rose for anyone so they don't have to do that. Does anyone have the info/blaxon of the shield on the inside of the rose? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
ok i found a bit better version of this seal in here so i used that one to make it. as i said in the image i had to invent the car from cero, becouse in none of the seals was really visible. another thing is that there are main diferences in both seals, by example in one the crown has 7 points while in the other it has 9. ( this is important in heraldry).also my source had aditional flowers on the bottom, while the one you showed us has none. still i hope you like it.LadyofHats (talk) 13:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note the existing, slightly different, images in the article are svg. In these existing images, the selected door is not always door 1 and the switches don't always lead from door 1 - and I don't think the door's aspect ratio quite matches the other images in the article. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: Done, hope I didn't change it too much. The redness on her face didn't look right. I removed glare from lips, but the forehead would have been hours of work. Let me know what you think! XcepticZP (talk) 19:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What about the shadow of the pencil? I also like the colour of the old board better and also the 3D design of the clip, apparent in the old one. Can you replicate those? ----SeansPotato Business21:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks as if the brown of the backpad in the svg disappears in the bottom right corner? It doesn't seem to add perspective, if that's what was intended by it. Otherwise, it's shaping out quite well! XcepticZP (talk) 11:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I already created a vector version of this before I knew that this Wikigraphist community existed. I've replaced most of the templates already. Tkgd2007 (talk) 14:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. I only posted this request because I saw lots of templates still using the old one. It looks really good. XcepticZP (talk) 14:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppinion: Here is a vector version, this should dramatically improve the resolution and quality! I chose the same color as the original, of course, and rescaled to a convenient 500px wide but keeping the same aspect ratio. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 21:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: Clean up, etc, as best as is possible. Most of these [Except the much larger Fasciola hepatica, which is a picture taken directly of the slide] were taken through a microscope lens, without any of the setups normally used for that purpose, and, as such, have problems. I do not know how fixable they are. -- Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: Cleaned up all of the images, removed dirt, dust etc also sharpened and improved colour and contrast to make smaller details more visible. Any furhter work or adjustments please ask. Hope this helps -- Tango2200:39, 05 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: These are types of human noses. Classes I, II, and IV are already vectorized. Please SVGify the other noses, too (Classes III, V, VI). TIA. --ANONYMOUSPUSSY10:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Because the side profile of the nose is irrelevant in this case. Its purpose is to show the width of the nose. It is to show an exception, all the other noses are normal but this one is fat. Like for african people. XcepticZP (talk) 20:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
IMO the "an exception" is untrue. The adjective "fat" could have been replaced by something less pejorative. And in "[l]ike for african people" the 'a' isn't capitalized (I see capitals as a signs of respect and/or being proud). That's how I see it could be racist. But I also think this racism discussion is irrelevant. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 18:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, comparing "Normal" and "African" noses implies the African ones are abnormal. But please realise that I don't think anyone things you MEANT it to come off that way - we're just sensitive types =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Veering off the racism/not racism discussion, I have tried these but they look very traced. I can upload my attempt if you would like to see it but they aren't as good as the existing svg files. Mangwanani (talk) 22:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I live in africa, so forgive me if I'm a little reluctant to capitalize its noun. You are correct, it wasn't meant to come off racist and my wording did contribute to that misunderstanding :/ My bad...hehe XcepticZP (talk) 18:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Point of order: The original ones are historically significant images - they're the ones that were published as the exemplars of the nose types, and, as some of the names are still used, it seems that the originals may have more historical merit than an SVG, unless the SVG is very accurate. To whit:
The Class 4 SVG leaves out several lines used for shading in the original's chin area.
Class I is decent, although there are minor changes probably caused by unfamiliarity with engravings and the poor quality of the original scan forcing judgement calls.
Wow that was quick! Thank you! That image is looks a lot better (particually as you corrected the colour). Thanks as well for switching over the images in each article without being asked. --DWRtalk00:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: Oh, why not. Norwich seems easy enough—I'll give it a go, although I can't for the life of me imagine why it's tagged as an unfree logo. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Norwich done. How's that? The colors and strokes are a bit different from the JPG, of course, but it is a coat of arms—it could have been much different :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. Yours will be better as you have more experience. If I can't trace it I havn't got a clue how to do it at all... Mangwanani (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not that hard once you get the hang of it; the learning curve is quite steep, that's all :) The Suffolk coat is nearly done. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Suffolk done. Tell me what you think; again, it's somewhat different from the JPG, and it's quite a large file (messy code :P), but I hope it's adequate. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's an easy fix. It looks quite different because it's also based on another source (one I find more reliable, as it includes the blazon and the PNG had no specified source at all). The mantling does look quite different, but it's not inaccurate; there's really no hard and fast rule. Would you like it to be closer to that of the PNG? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, but doable; will try to finish it over the next couple of days. Would you like anything changed in the Suffolk arms? Do bear in mind I deliberately made it different, as coats of arms are basically interpretations of their blazon done with a good deal of artistic license :) The shade of blue in particular looks different from the PNG, but it's the "azure" used in most coats of arms on the Commons. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 21:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suffolk's good enough and as I can't remember nor find the correct version we'll go with your vector version. If someone says elsewise then we can change it. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 17:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The road signs when driving through Suffolk simply say: Welcome to Suffolk and have a picture of just the shield. No other arms...Mangwanani (talk) 11:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, most COAs on Wiki aren't full achievements anyway. I've finally uploaded the Norfolk SVG—I'm terribly sorry about the delay, and I hope it's to your liking. This is an exact vector version of the original—the only difference is in the brighter gold :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! That is amazing. Could I just ask for the duller gold. As far as I am aware, it is actually, surprisingly, the duller gold. Mangwanani (talk) 11:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks fantastic, thanks. I'll just copy the license over. Also, I'll add the standard tag saying that it was retouched and explain what was done. Marking this request as done. Thanks again! Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 21:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: (Shouldn't be too hard). The black line in the bottom should be removed (I’m not sure if there’s also one on the left side...), and the result should be moved to commons. Thanks in advance. -- Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 01:53, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:YDone with a tad of color correction for good measure. If it's OK, I'll delete the local file (uploaded it with the same name at Commons). It's a very nice shot, shame it was so low-res. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, great job. I don't know what's usually done in these cases, but I wouldn't mind you deleting the first version. And yes it is a shame the shot is low-res, but white monarchs represented only 2-9% of the monarch population (in 1990). I'm certain to try and take a better picture if I one day go to Oahu. Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm the original author of these files. They are vector graphics produced in Omnigraffle. I can supply vector images as PICT (!), EPS or PDF formats, which would be better suited to conversion to SVG. If anyone can handle the conversion of these files, let me know. Thanks, Gwernol21:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment II used to collec coins, and the colour of those wheat cents [Both examples] doesn't look right to me. Were these just put on a scanner and scanned? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: I have made this vector image of the COA of Iceland. Could someone just fix the final colours from the raster. I cant do it... -- Mangwanani (talk) 20:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Someone marked the SVG as redundant (VVA) to itself. It's been fixed by someone else.
Finally, could I make the additional request that the Icelandic Presidential flag (Which has an embedded raster coat) be fixed to be all SVG? Thanx. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 17:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm no expert but I just wasn't sure. We can keep the box there then. Just thought it may be there because the bitmap hasn't had the bckgrd made transparent but if its meant to be like that fine. :) Mangwanani (talk) 22:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I tried my hand at it, and uploaded it over the original. If you don't like it just revert my edits and your image will be back. I'll look at the flag later today. §hep • ¡Talk to me!21:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to FotW the description explicitly includes the white background before the coat itself. Could the embedded-bitmap flag just be overwritten with the new one, since they are the same format/extension? Thanx, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: I think I'd like this to be an SVG. The red lettering gives names of proteins and these might be more obvious if put into ovals; ovals that look like they represent proteins. You know. ----SeansPotato Business20:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it should be globular, rather than a triangle with sharp corners. They could all be globular-looking but with different globular shapes; nothing so detailed as to infer that it's an accurate representation of the actual protein's shape. ----SeansPotato Business08:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:
In principle it could be SVGified, but the lips would come out looking very clip-arty - the current lips seem to be from a photograph. If you don't mind a clip-art look though(?), it's fairly easy. Time3000 (talk) 18:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it matters if the lips aren't photo-realistic. As long as its reasonably interpreted by the artist to display that! So yes please. XcepticZP (talk) 19:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How's that? I just went with the original idea, because lips and speech bubble could be a bit small to be shown well at low resolutions (e.g. in userboxes) and partly because it's easier ; ). Time3000 (talk) 16:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to do that but thought the wreath didn't come round as much at the top and didn't know how to change it. I also couldn't make the wreath a brighter gold. On Wikipedia the file seems to show Italy and the dots between the letters but these aren't present when I open it up in Inkscape :S. Mangwanani (talk) 15:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am leaning to towards §hep's flag. only would you mind putting het letters closer together and inlarging abit. also the original did not have the dots, so I think you can leave them out. Also thanks for the help guys. --SelfQ (talk) 15:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any dots on my flag so if they render in something other than IE 7 let me know and I'll look at it. With an SVG you can make it as large as you want and still keep the same exact quality. I'll move the letters in a bit. §hep • ¡Talk to me!19:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks great even though its not a exact match I dont think thats to big a of a deal. if you'd be so kind as to rename it and il use it. thanks. --SelfQ (talk) 20:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well what I meant was, why on earth would someone resize the image to such a small size, and on top of that compress the hell out of it? XcepticZP (talk) 06:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: SVGification. I don't feel like doing these right now, so I'm not claiming them. It would be good if we could maintain a common color scheme for the three "Wpdms" maps (these two and the third in the other Arizona Map request above). — ʞɔıu09:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion:I'll do these. I'm not sure how the colors relate to each other between the pictures, so I'll just copy the colors from the source images. If anyone wants to, they can change the the color afterwards :) XcepticZP (talk) 21:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I was quite impressed with the lion myself, even with my lack of experience. Your version of the flag is, not surprisingly, better than mine. Think we'll go for your version. Mangwanani (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As you say, thats what Flags of the World suggests. Have no idea whether the wreath should be added or not... They look great though. Thanks a million. What do you think about the BSAC crest? Mangwanani (talk) 17:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There's some strange stuff on the left... and the background didn't show up correctly (Too light). Also, was it supposed to be in black and white? I thought most coats would have colors. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can leave Oceania grey, as there are no First World countries outside of Australia and New Zealand. Also could you use the brighter royal blue so it stands out better? Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If this goes against some rule please let me know. I saw this sitting and gave it a shot. Mangwanani you could use this for a start if you want. I believe all the countries are marked. If it's taboo to step in just hit me with a trout. §hep • ¡Talk to me!23:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is not at all taboo for multiple editors to work on one graphic, but thanks for your politeness. Often one editor may have a strength and be able to add the missing touch, we've done that many times here.
Graphist opinion: I have a start. I converted the PDF to an SVG and am going to start to switch the color over. Above is what I've got so far. I have to invert the continents and oceans so far. §hep • ¡Talk to me!20:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
From what I've been trying, if you want a flat map without any breaks you're going to get something like what you called "horribly skewed". With the other maps it was an easy break because the whole PAcific ocean was pretty much dropped off. With this you're messign with land that can't just go away. §hep • ¡Talk to me!19:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What I meant by horribly skewed is that in Image:Pacific centric no colonies blank world.png, Alaska and Siberia are nowhere close to each other, and in reality they are but a few miles. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can generate a flat map from the 162E map above but it will still cut island (and part of greenland) into two. I can put the whole of greenland on the Africa side but that would result in cutting Greenland in two big chunks. Also it would obviously move the centre of the image further (towards Asia) from the date line. /Lokal_Profil20:51, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I want to thank you both for your contributions. What is needed is not a wrap-around map, what is needed is just a map of the world's political units for general use, centered on the Pacific. It should not cut anything in two, not Africa, not Greenland, not Iceland. In Image:BlankMap-World6, compact.svg, no country is cut or broken, even though in reality there is overlap. If Greenland or Iceland has to be mended to put it on one side, rather than the other, please do so. Thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If there is an overlap in Image:BlankMap-World6.svg (which is the source for Image:BlankMap-World6, compact.svg) then it's a very small one making it barely visible. After having tried around with preserving Iceland intact I came to the conclusion that a split Greenland looks worse so for optimised aestethics and accuracy Iceland will simply have to be split. Keeping greenland and Iceland intact would require a "fake" map which is something I'm not really comfortable with. My preferred map remains Image:BlankMap-World-162E.svg and after all if the map is centered on the Pacific then Iceland will rarely be needed. /Lokal_Profil21:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you again for your contributions, we'll keep going. The question is not about having a "fake" or a geographically precise map, it's about having a non-ovoid Wiki-useful map for situations when a Pacific-centric map is called for. I am sorry if you are uncomfortable with that, but Image:BlankMap-World6, compact.svg is done in the exact fashion I am calling for, that map is Wikipedia-accepted, and it is what is needed in this situation, not geographic precision according to some different standard. But I do appreciate what you have done. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Made a last edit. Working with the Americas map (below) revealed to me an easy way of making it so that Iceland and Greenland are intact whilst not "faking" the map. Hope this solution is ok. /Lokal_Profil22:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's behaving OK with me, so I just did an autocrop in GIMP. MW seems to be playing up again and still showing the caption on the image page (yes, I have tried ?action=purge), but it'll probably have fixed itself by the time anyone else reads this. Time3000 (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello I am the creator of this image and it would be no trouble for me to fix/edit the images I've uploaded (I ended up cropping a local copy of that image and reuploading seeing as the crop by Time3000 was on the tight side). Please leave a note on my user talk page next time :).¤~Persian Poet Gal(talk)21:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if it's inheirently a copyright violation, but it definitely looks like there should be supporting info besides "own work". I will ask the uploader if it was scanned, from where, etc. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: Similar to my last request, an SVG glyph to represent the pre-Columbian polity of Azcapotzalco. The dots don't have to be reproduced perfectly. There are a few different ways of drawing this (see e.g. the right-hand side of Image:Tezozomoc.jpg), but this version (from the Codex Mendoza) is the most famous, and is the one the modern Mexico City borough named after Azcapotzalco based their logo on. (An SVG version of the borough's glyph might be wanted too, although I don't know if copyright allows that.) --Ptcamn (talk) 23:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: This graph was taken from a PDF document, page 38. I know that PDF can be easily converted to SVG, but I don't have the tools. Please help this current featured article candidate by exporting PDF into SVG. Thank you! Renata (talk) 21:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request: Make a proper schematic or contour shaded map, showing hills, river, Servian Wall. Use Latin and English names together, possibly also modern Italian names. Potential use in a number of articles. --mervyn (talk) 19:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great. Could do with a cap I for Tiber Island to correspond with Wikipedia article title, and it is Caelian not Caelion Hill. Perhaps it would be even clearer to put the English names of the 7 hills in bold. Thanks, --mervyn (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed that the map (especially position of Servian Wall) is rather too stylized compared to Plan D above. Any chance of fixing? --mervyn (talk) 16:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion: I've straightened and converted to b&w to fix some of the artefacts, and also removed some of the scan darkening from the top left corner. The modified version is on commons under the same name, so it should be changed in articles automatically once the speedy for the non-commons version has gone through. Time3000 (talk) 15:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It says "MetsBot has reviewed this image and it may not pass the requirements for deletion. This image is not a bit-by-bit copy of Image:Naser kiss queen.jpg on Commons, although it could be a compressed/resized copy." Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gave my shot at it. Also sharpened it to show the canvas type and cropped it because the lines are not straight. Edit: I made changes to the commons ones. §hep • ¡Talk to me!00:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The changes also need to be made to this one, or this one needs to be deleted so it doesn't block the same-named Commons one. Please just upload the changed version over this one. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
IMO depends on what you're looking for, the first looks more like it was taken straight off of, maybe an old newspaper and cleaned. The other one is softer and looks more like a portrait, but doesn't exactly portray the canvas texture. I like the NR better. §hep • ¡Talk to me!22:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please revert your edit to the Hatay flag-it needs to be symmetrical, that is, it should be even from top to bottom and side to side, no matter what the FOTW site shows. After that, the Arabic text needs to be in the same golden yellow and fit within the starburst, not blanket on top of it. Thanks and sorry. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:01, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are any of those two the right one? I could make the Rub el Hizb smaller though ( I used the same proportions and colours as in the Flag of kazakhstan ) --Cradel15:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]