Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/An early implementation of Java on the internet Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/An_early_implementation_of_Java_on_the_internet

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Reason

The first webcam. It is, of course, low resolution, and crappy, but it's part of a system from 1993 to transfer the status of a coffee pot over the world wide web, considered the world's first webcam. Such historical documentation overrides.

Articles in which this image appears

Trojan Room coffee pot, Quentin Stafford-Fraser

FP category for this image

You know, I think this might be the rare image best put under Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Other

Creator

Quentin Stafford-Fraser

• Support as nominator – Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 13:34, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - I'd prefer a video, but we'd just be looking at an empty pot. This is native resolution, so there's no point in asking for higher. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't think it ever was video, think it updated every minute or so (and most of the images are likely long gone). Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 02:21, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are multiple images about [1]. It occurs to me that a short gif with selection of images from the camera might be the most appropriate format (?) Wolftick (talk) 06:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, but Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Engineering and technology/Others may be a more appropriate category. sst✈^(discuss) 07:44, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Possible. I'll leave that for Armbrust. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 10:04, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Is it png and not jpg because we want lossless quality? Interestingly, the image is slightly larger than 128×128 claimed in the article. Brandmeister^talk 10:23, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  I believe it's PNG because it's converted from some hideous early format, combined with JPEG artefacting being fairly visible on the pixel-width lines and flat colours of the frame. As for the size difference, that likely comes from showing the window it was formerly played in. Indeed, cropping that gives exactly the 128x128 image expected. Our other image, of it being shut down is also exactly 128x128. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 11:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per others. --Tremonist (talk) 14:10, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose Fun, but much too small to be FP. Yann (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Historical images, which have never existed in any higher resolution and cannot without literally removing all encyclopedic value, surely must be an exception? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 14:44, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can accept loosing the standard, but 142 × 159 pixels is really too small for a FP. Yann (talk) 12:08, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Sorry. I'm inclined to agree with Yann. Not every high-value image has to be a FP. I'm reminded of the freely-released xkcd panels we have- undoubtedly great in their own right, undoubtedly valuable for an encyclopedia article, and undoubtedly brilliant to have freely released, but FP material? I feel not. Josh Milburn (talk) 23:37, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. This is an as good as possible image depicting the topic, so EV is very good. The fact that it's a crappy and dull image by any standards is a large part of the whole point of it: it was the fist-ever webcam, and it was of a totally banal subject. Nick-D (talk) 09:18, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – Jobas (talk) 17:25, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Trojan Room coffee pot xcoffee.png --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 14:12, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• I choose the more specifix "Engineering and technology". Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 14:12, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]