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December 10

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Category:Bank Street School for Children alumni

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This contains alumni of the elementary school, not the graduate school. It isn't verified in either of the two articles in this category. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Redirects from Baluchi-language terms

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The result of the discussion was: do not delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 09:03, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The relevant ISO 639 codes as applied to redirects aren't working as expected. While the 639 codes when used with lang-xx do function as expected (Balochi: کویته, lit. 'Quetta'), it doesn't work with {{R from language}}. It just says 'undetermined language' and fails to categorize. Same with all of its dialects.‬‎  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  17:04, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mr. Guye, I take it that your goal is to have the {{R from alternative language}} template work for Balochi, rather than to have the category deleted. The template appears to recognise a language code only if the relevant category exists, with the exact spelling as given by the tables used in Module:Lang. I don't know if this behaviour was introduced in the recent overhaul of the template, or whether it is desirable at all (pinging someone who might know). This failed for the individual Balochi varieties because the categories don't exist yet, and it failed for Balochi itself because the category uses the alternative spelling Baluchi. The solution is to move this category to Category:Redirects from Balochi-language terms (which is in line both with the title of the wikipedia article and with the standard name expected by the template). – Uanfala (talk) 17:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Uanfala: Yes, you are right about my intentions. I don't want this deleted. I want this to work. But should the spelling really matter though? The ISO 639-2 code bal refers to the language, not the spelling. "Bal" is contained in both spellings. From experience, if you use an ISO 639 code that is recognized but there is no category for, it shows up as a red category. That's not happening here. I don't care so much about which spelling variant it chooses as long as it refers to the language intended.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  18:43, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The old {{lang|bal}} got the language name from {{ISO 639 name bal}} which returns the name 'Baluchi' (the ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3 standard spelling so the correct output for the ISO 639 name template). Old {{lang}} used that language name to build the category wikilink to Category:Articles containing Baluchi-language text. New {{lang|bal}} gets the language name from Module:Language/data/wp languages (one of two modules that Module:Lang uses to override ISO 639 / IANA language names) where bal has been mapped to 'Balochi' since it was added at this version. {{R from alternative language}} uses {{lang}}'s data tables so should be using 'Balochi'. When the language code is bal:
{{#invoke:Lang|name_from_code|bal}} → Script error: The function "name_from_code" does not exist. (this {{#invoke:}} used in current version of {{R from alternative language}})
{{ISO 639 name bal}} → Baluchi (this template used in previous version)
Old version of {{lang-bal}} always returned 'Balochi' as does the current version.
I don't know if this helps or hinders. I have no opinion on the question to hand.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:59, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Foo in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 5#Foo in fiction. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: As with my past CFRs of this nature, make it clear that these categories are only to be used when the element of fiction is primary rather than incidental to the work. DonIago (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Book by Ramesh Kumar P

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The result of the discussion was: speedily deleted already as spam, see User talk:RameshKumarPIn. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Vanity category, created by autor of single non-noteworthy book. TheLongTone (talk) 16:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ambulance services by continent

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The result of the discussion was: Merge all. Timrollpickering (Talk) 17:50, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 subcat - air ambulances Rathfelder (talk) 11:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 subcat - air ambulances Rathfelder (talk) 11:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I article, 1 sub cat - air ambulance services Rathfelder (talk) 11:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 article, 2 subcats. Rathfelder (talk) 11:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article and a subcat Air ambulance services in Africa‎ Rathfelder (talk) 11:43, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No actual articles. Subcats are essentially mirrors of the Air ambulance services tree. There are surprisingly few articles about ambulance services. Certainly not enough to justify a continent category tree. Rathfelder (talk) 11:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Heroes of the Donetsk People's Republic

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCAWARD and WP:NONDEF, not a defining characteristic of the people who are in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Mosques by city

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The result of the discussion was: Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 5#Mosques by city. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, all the above categories contain 1 or 2 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:54, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Vietnamese-language television networks in Canada

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Vietnamese-language television networks without leaving redirects. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overgrown nest of four categories that exists just to smother one article in defiance of WP:SMALLCAT. Canada does not have a large enough array of Vietnamese-language media to need this. Bearcat (talk) 04:28, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A merge nomination would automatically require the retention of one or all of the nominated categories as category redirects. The article can be very easily readded to the target category without needing any of these to be retained in that form. Bearcat (talk) 23:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We already have Category:Multicultural and ethnic television in Canada. Bearcat (talk) 16:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Independent Film Channel network shows

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Updating to reflect channel's current name and correspond with its article title. Trivialist (talk) 03:06, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:South Alexandria, Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:15, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a city neighbourhood, which consists only of a redirect and a navbox template. There's no pressing need for this, as a city with a population of just 155K does not need to have its contents obsessively subcategorized down to each individual neighbourhood within it. Bearcat (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Births in Sillery

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The result of the discussion was: Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 5#Category:Births in Sillery. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia does not use the category system to segregate people who were born in a place from people who moved there after birth. Bearcat (talk) 01:18, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deaths in Sillery

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Timrollpickering (Talk) 20:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate category for deaths in one particular borough of a single city. We don't even categorize people by country in which they died, let alone by individual city or borough within that country. Bearcat (talk) 01:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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