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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Novak Djokovic in 2011 Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Novak_Djokovic_in_2011

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The result was delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:18, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Novak Djokovic in 2011

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This should be deleted per WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NOONECARES. Yeah, he's having a good year, but surely all his relevant doings can be covered at Novak_Djokovic#2011? Plus, I'm not too keen on this "X in YYYY" format. If we're going to do it for a guy who swats around a ball for a living, why not for individuals who actually made a contribution to history, say Napoleon in 1815, Adolf Hitler in 1939 or Nelson Mandela in 1991? Perhaps because the format itself is flawed, and we'd best quash this experiment before anyone else gets the idea to replicate it. - Biruitorul Talk 02:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe delete it if he doesn't win at roland garros? Or keep it until he finishes his winning streak if it turns out to be not that significant? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.0.61 (talk) 19:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 20:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Atmoz (talk) 18:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I agree with Biruitorul that this format is fundamentally flawed. If this win streak is sufficiently notable to be discussed in the main article for the athlete (and it is), then that should be done in the summary style that is appropriate for Wikipedia articles. Detailed match statistics have been largely accepted for the pages of the various tournaments, and can be found there by the interested reader. Individual athlete/year articles are undue weight; this isn't a record setting performance, and even if it were, we do not -- and should not -- have articles such as Babe Ruth in 1927 or Donald Bradman in 1930 or even LaDainian Tomlinson in 2006. As for WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, if this is deleted, I'll happily nominate the Roger Federer by year article series on identical grounds. Serpent's Choice (talk) 18:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Why not take this article and place it in the main Novak article? Yes, this year has been a great one for Djokovic but for Wikipedia, it goes along the lines of, as stated above, WP:NOONECARES. I am a tennis fan myself and I like Djokovic, but I feel that Novak in 2011 should not be another whole article mostly because it's not very important and it can just be added to his main article. This article already says the exact same thing that's in here. Just add the chart in that section and the problem is solved.KingRatedRIV (talk) 14:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as there are enough references to pass GNG. Armbrust Talk to me Contribs 21:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The GNG isn't the alpha and omega of inclusion guidelines. Djokovic is clearly notable. His 2011 performance deserves mention in his article; it has received significant coverage. But breaking athletes' performance out by year in this manner places undue weight on each year's figures and creates articles that are more suited to a sports almanac than an encyclopedia. Really, almost all of the time, the year-to-year performance of an athlete is run-of-the-mill. Athletes like Djokovic or Federer or Babe Ruth or Donald Bradman are notable, and they accomplish notable things -- often in several different years. But their play in each of those years is expected. It is those athletes doing their job. It isn't practical or appropriate to have an article about each year of each individual athlete's play. Serpent's Choice (talk) 16:42, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The reason it is too long to be merged is that it mentions every game, set and match he played this year. Leave out the excessive statistical detail and you're left with no more than one healthy paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.171.56.13 (talk) 12:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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