Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Home Automation Control Systems Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Home_Automation_Control_Systems

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Home automation. It's a shame, as the creator obviously means well, but they would be better suited to adding to the article which already exists. Sorry. — Joseph Fox 00:10, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is not the place for guides or how-tos. --Σ _{^talkcontribs} 01:55, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep At least for now. A Google Books search and a Google News Archive search demonstrate that the topic is notable. This incomplete article, by a new user, was nominated for deletion just 32 minutes after it was created. No one greeted the new user or explained what could be done to improve the article. It looks like this AfD nomination took the wind out of the new user's sails. The new user is trying to respond at the deletion debate talk page. I will now welcome the user, and see if this article can be salvaged, or if the material is already covered adequately at Home automation. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:52, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very aggravating. Thanks for trying to rescue this. --Kvng (talk) 17:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 13:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Nothing here that can't be covered in Home Automation.--Pontificalibus (talk) 14:55, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Folks: I am not interested in joining a debate. I can add any new information I find in the original article, but I find it is already becoming a book. The (Control System) link used (http://en.wikipedia.orghttps://demo.azizisearch.com/lite/wikipedia/page/Programmable_Logic_Controller) there already has nothing to do with Home Automation systems and should be deleted or pointed to my new page.

Please let me know if you want me to continue (1) creating the article separately from the main article (2) or creating it within the orriginal article, or keeping it off wikipedia.

thanks for your comments; smile4yourself; — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smile4yourself (talk • contribs) 18:07, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep There is clear encyclopedic scope for this as a split from Home Automation, and without becoming a WP:HOWTO. The current article is incomplete and poor, but that's an inevitable result of attacking every new editor's new article within minutes of their creation. In particular, I completely fail to see an article quite so incomplete can be described as a "how to". Andy Dingley (talk) 00:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

delete It's OK folks, there was a new editor here for a while, but I think we've scared them off now. The threat of having a new article certainly seems to have been removed. Let's delete the ruins, then get back to our Serious Bizniz in the WP_talk: namespace and stop wasting time on articles. 8-( Andy Dingley (talk) 16:42, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Very Weak Keep - I agree with Andy in that there is probably scope for a split, and there is so little content right now that it can't possibly be called a how-to. However, there should be some content, and this is currently pretty much content-free. However, some time should be allowed to develop an actual article. Per Wikipedia:Article titles, this article probably should be moved to Home automation control system if kept. -- Whpq (talk) 15:33, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• based on the above, I will erase what I began to create. I thought wikipedia was a good web site worthy of support, and had done so in the past. This time I thought it was time to write, but I certainly don't want to spend hours to create a page to have it erased later. I also don't want to spend hours to create a page in a 'play area' and then move it to be read, and then have it erased either. So since there seems to be a high risk of this, I guess I will create my notes elsewhere, where they will be available at least for me.

the original author: smile4yourself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smile4yourself (talk • contribs) 23:43, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A couple suggestions: --Kvng (talk) 13:14, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. You said you'd consider keeping your notes "elsewhere". Why not keep your notes here on Wikipedia under your user account ('play area')?
2. Consider the possibility that improving an existing article or articles in the field of your research is a better research approach than creating a new article. You benefit by not having to start from scratch and having existing editors of the articles you're working on collaborate on your efforts and check your work.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.