Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Games with ray tracing Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Games_with_ray_tracing

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The result was delete. Consensus of the discussion is that this is not appropriate as a list. No prejudice against creation of a non-list article about the use of ray tracing in games, or including material about gaming uses in the Ray tracing (graphics) article. RL0919 (talk) 01:26, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Games with ray tracing

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WP:INDISCRIMINATE list. There is no explanation of how it is relevant to a general audience outside of a marketing bullet point. The games should also probably be removed from the category as well. I mean, we don't have a category for "3D games" or "games using a lighting engine". _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:41, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:41, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I find this would bloat out of control very quickly. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 17:10, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nobody outside of marketing gurus for graphics cards companies and deep industry news junkies cares one bit about this, and in five years it'll be like 'realistic graphics'; just another box check-off. Nate • (chatter) 17:50, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Just rename it List of games with ray tracing. Click the Google news link at the top of this INH, and you can see people talking about games made with it, such as [1]. Just search for how many times in that length article "ray tracing" is mentioned. Since the games made with this are mentioned in lengthy articles mentioning why ray tracing makes them look amazing, it is clearly a notable topic. Dream Focus 18:06, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. per WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:NOTCATALOGUE.Ajf773 (talk) 09:52, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I agree with Nate. Ray tracing is a fairly well known technology and even 15 years ago it should have been no surprise to anyone that once average video cards got powerful enough to do it in real time it would become accepted in commercial video games. A topic of Ray tracing in video games maybe detailing the history of how the technology has advanced and spread would probably satisfy GNG and be a useful addition, but this is just a list which will quickly grow too big to be useful. Daß Wölf 11:33, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Using the video game wikiprojects custom search engine for reliable sources related to things of this nature, I easily find ample coverage of popular games and ray tracing. Example:
Engadget NVIDIA ray-tracing on 'Minecraft' looks surprisingly cool Detailed coverage on how ray tracing affects Minecraft.
Ars Technica Review: Control is Remedy’s best game yet—and a ray tracing masterpiece talks about a new game and how well ray tracing works with it.
VG247 Here’s our first look at ray tracing in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare’s campaign
Just look through those three results, are those articles not reliable sources giving significant coverage to this topic? Dream Focus 21:44, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they give notability, but since ray tracing is going mainstream as a game technology, the list is sooner or later going to include all games using major 3D engines. If this were a passing fad it would be another case, but since this is going to get deleted sooner or later, I'd much rather we write a proper prose article (not omitting the notable first games). Daß Wölf 04:51, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So you want to delete it because in the future it might become common. If that happens then it can be deleted then, but right now this is a notable thing. Dream Focus 16:19, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as indiscriminate list that can only grow. We have categories for this purpose. The list doesn't really provide any additional encyclopedic or even useful information. Half the game articles don't even mention ray tracing. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 22:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per nom. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 21:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep And rename per Dream Focus. 172.56.28.46 (talk) 02:40, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Open to renaming, changing scope, or draftify. It doesn't seem any more WP:INDISCRIMINATE than what's on Lists of video games or Outline of video games. It does need much WP:IMPROVEment. Real-time Ray Tracing has been a long term goal in computer graphics. StrayBolt (talk) 03:31, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Sergecross73 msg me 11:33, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Incorporate into Ray tracing (graphics). The article's information could be added to a section on the article for Ray Tracing, as a list of notable games that use ray tracing. Jeb³ _{Talk at me here} 13:49, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Hellknowz' arguments. An indiscriminate list that is better suited as a category. Rorshacma (talk) 19:47, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.