Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Westerman Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alex_Westerman

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The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 22:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Westerman

Non-notable game designer; no references to third-party reliable sources given. Links given in References section all describe projects and websites that he is involved in, rather than the subject himself. Judging from Google and Google News, which are all passing mentions of the subject in unreliable sources if not unrelated altogether, references that discuss the subject in detail are not likely to be forthcoming. Resoundingly fails to satisfy notability criteria for biographies. Pegasus «C¦T» 00:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. -- VG ☎ 07:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions. -- VG ☎ 07:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 13:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep ~~provisionally~~. I'd like to see the awards specifically be sourced, but the rest of it needs better sourcing as well. If reliably sourced, this article will pass muster in my book. Jclemens (talk) 15:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The awards are for websites he setup or run and therefore shouldn't be used to prove the subject's notability. Just because YouTube or Google are notable websites does not automatically make the people who designed them notable. Pegasus «C¦T» 06:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be rude, but I find that reasoning specious. Further, my index of suspicion climbs when an AfD nominator argues with "keep" !voters. Jclemens (talk) 14:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Found sources for some of the awards to back up the claims.Charlie allnut (talk) 15:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I've struck the "provisionally" from my keep on the basis of the additional sources found. Jclemens (talk) 14:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep — seems to pass WP:BIO given that there exist two reliable secondary sources about this person. MuZemike (talk) 17:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which two? All the ones given in the "References" section are not about Westerman himself, they're primarily about the award-winning websites he's been involved with. Only brief mention of the man himself is given in all of them. Nothing substantial enough for a separate biography. Pegasus «C¦T» 06:54, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This article is a resume puff piece. The only verifiable info is that he worked for those companies, and that those companies got some awards. Notability is not inherited to that extent, and the awards are of the pay-me-to-give-you-one variety (see Webby_Awards#Criticism). VG ☎ 06:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I'm kinda iffy on this one, but I think a WP:BLP article needs more than just an IMDB entry and what I presume to be him talking at an industry convention as sources directly related to the man. Many of the given sources don't even mention Westerman, and this source puts him in a not-unique position. Nifboy (talk) 17:59, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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