Template talk:Helpbox Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Helpbox

This template was considered for deletion on 2020 April 20. The result of the discussion was "do not merge".

Since this template has been inserted into heavily used Template:Guideline list I would strongly suggest, that the creator prepared a documentation as soon as possible. In particular, in IE6 the Template:Guideline list is taking 100% page width, and I have no freakin idea how to fix it. --Kubanczyk 08:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've undid recent table-to-div change. It helped. --Kubanczyk 08:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there the capability to modify this template so that its sections could be ? The Style template is very long and awkward, and collapsibility would make it much more convenient. Regards, Waltham, The Duke of 12:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm concerned with the issue for a little while. The problem that we face is too much MoS sections and guidelines. They overlap each other and form a nice instruction creep. I don't think that what you are proposing is a solution to the problem. What would you say about deleting the project-specific links from the {{Style}} (e.g. anime, US highways, etc...)? --Kubanczyk (talk) 20:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{editprotected}} I don't care if you reduce the length of the {{style}} template or not; one should still have the option to collapse a helpbox.--Father Goose (talk) 03:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Could be tricky... why don't you try in a sandbox first and come back with some code? Happy‑melon 19:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I get two helpboxes to go one under the other? For example, I want to get {{Policy list}} followed by {{Guideline list}}, both on the right of the page; but when I just call the templates one after the other I see them next to each other instead of stacked vertically.--Kotniski (talk) 09:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since no-one could answer that, I've created a new template, {{Helpbox stackable}}, for which the above behaviour works (I added class="infobox vcard" - I have no idea why this works, since I can't find the class definition in any css file, but it seems that it does work).--Kotniski (talk) 12:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone proficient at wiki-code please Merge these 2 templates, to make stackability an optional parameter. See thread at User_talk:Kotniski for agreement between us two. Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 22:39, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{editprotected}}

Could a float parameter be added? (This code might be wrong.)

style="float: {{{float|right}}};"

This, that and the other _[talk] 09:27, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm reluctant to make an edit when you're not sure if it's right or not. How about making the change in a subpage like Template:Helpbox/sandbox first, and testing it? --Elonka 19:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As part of an ongoing project to get the dozens of different sidebar meta-templates we presently have singing from the same hymn sheet, I've rewritten this template as a wikitable. Other than code readability, I've also added the navbox-vertical class for semantic value and added clear: right so that this no longer ends up floating in entirely random locations when it's stacked with other sidebars. If there are no objections I'll sync this in a few days. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 17:47, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I actually went further than this and subclassed the template to {{sidebar}}, which is a significant win both in code footprint and readability. This has been undone without discussion: it should be reinstated. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 10:44, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you are going to re-instate the changes please ensure that the net visual effect on the rendered page (in e.g. {{dispute-resolution}}) remains as close to the original as possible, especially in terms of width of the box and font-size. –xeno^talk 15:54, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've put a tweaked version in the sandbox: see the test case at Template:Dispute-resolution/testcases. Can you check the fonts are okay at your end? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine - thank you =) –xeno^talk 14:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done: cheers. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:40, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• I have reverted these modifications because it is causing formatting errors on Template:Naming conventions. Specifically, it is ignoring {{{1}}} being set to "width:300px;" on many browsers and wide-screen monitor resolutions, and instead defaulting as if no width is ever specified (See new example on Template:Helpbox/testcases; the widths are not equal when viewed on a wide-screen monitor resolution.[1] . Please test and make the necessary modifications before reinstating. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  I think I found the bug. {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{{1}}}}}; needs to appear last in the "style" parameter if one wants to override one of the "background-color: #f5faff; font-size: 90%; width: auto; line-height: 1.6em;" CSS attributes. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:00, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• • • Ah, good catch. Sorry for the fallout. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:09, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As a navigational template, this should probably be part of Category:Exclude in print. GreenReaper (talk) 10:04, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please update with the version currently (as of this message) in the sandbox here. From the revision history: (removed duplicate heading12/content12 entries then replaced headingN/contentN with heading(N+10)/content(N+10) in order to use content1 to place spacer between title and template's contents). In other words, a gap between the title and first heading is the only (substantial) change. Thank you, Sardanaphalus (talk) 12:19, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Sardanaphalus: You can do this with the titlestyle parameter, like I've done in the sandbox. How does that look to you? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:02, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox first; see WP:TESTCASES. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 19:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the edit with my version of the sandbox, and I also lowered the protection to semi-protection. (Also, Technical 13, your comment here doesn't make much sense, as both Sardanaphalus and I both put our code in the template sandbox.) — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 06:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you – and for display:block;margin-bottom:N, which looks like something useful to know. Perhaps it might be added as optional styling to {{Sidebar}} itself, activated e.g. by |spacer=on and/or |titlebodyspacer=on, ...? Sardanaphalus (talk) 08:28, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably not worth the bother of adding an extra parameter for - it's easy enough just to add the styling with titlestyle. But that's only my opinion - feel free to ask at Template talk:Sidebar. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 08:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have experimented with softer colors, see Template:Helpbox/testcases (note updated 5/6/15 but maybe not the same if you read this later). Also, all colors are shades of blue. Any views? --Jules (Mrjulesd) 19:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]