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On 9 July 2024, it was proposed that this page be moved from Module:Language to Module:Wikt-lang. The result of the discussion was moved.

{{lang|smp|example}} (the code for Samaritan Hebrew language) adds a page to Category:Articles containing Samaritan-language text but Samaritan language redirects to Samaritan Aramaic language sam. -- Error (talk) 20:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a 'failing' of Module:Language (because that module is not used by {{lang}}). It may be a failing of Module:Lang which when queried gives these results:

{{lang|fn=category_from_tag|smp|link=yes}} → Category:Articles containing Samaritan Hebrew-language text

{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|smp|link=yes}} → Samaritan Hebrew

{{lang|fn=category_from_tag|sam|link=yes}} → Category:Articles containing Samaritan Aramaic-language text

{{lang|fn=name_from_tag|sam|link=yes}} → Samaritan Aramaic

The ISO 639-3 custodian assigns smp to Samaritan. Similarly, the IANA language-subtag-registry file also assigns smp to Samaritan. Apparently, no one at en.wiki has cared enough about which article is linked when smp is used in {{lang}} to gain a consensus to override the ISO 639-3 name or to repoint the Samaritan-language-redirect so that it points elsewhere.

Issues involving {{lang}}, {{transliteration}}, and other templates that use Module:Lang, should be discussed at Template talk:Lang, not here. Where is it best to discuss repointing the Samaritan-language-redirect? I don't know, except to say that such discussion should not be here.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Asked at Template talk:lang#Samaritan --Error (talk) 01:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This should not be applying italics automatically in the case of {{wikt-lang|en|...}}, only for non-English material (MOS:FOREIGN, MOS:ITALICS). If an English-language term is being used in a words-as-words manner, it can be italicized manually or by a template parameter.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  18:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have hacked Module:Language/sandbox to create a common function (permalink) that chooses how the 'text' is rendered. Default rendering is:

Latn-script text is rendered in italic except when

• the language tag is en (English text renders in upright font)
• |italics=no

English text may be rendered in italics for MOS:WORDSASWORDS by setting |italics=yes (or y or +)

non-Latn-script text is rendered in upright font except when

• |italics=yes (or y or +)

See Template:Wikt-lang/testcases.

Keep? Discard?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently using the template without a text value produces a Lua error - Lua error in Module:Wikt-lang at line 131: bad argument #1 to 'get_best_script' (string expected, got nil). This should be more gracefully handled like the error in line 248. Gonnym (talk) 12:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caught:

{{Wikt-lang|en|}} → [text?] Parameter 2 is required

{{Wikt-lang|en}} → [text?] Parameter 2 is required

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request to Module:Wikt-lang/data has been answered. Set the |answered= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

The currently set name for the Ilocano language, with language code ilo, is "Iloko" which does not match up with Wiktionary's preferred name for the language, Ilocano. For instance, {{wikt-lang|ilo|something}} links to wikt: something #Iloko, when it should instead link to wikt: something #Ilocano.

The following should be added to the data table variable in Module:Wikt-lang/data:

		["ilo"] = {
			["name"] = "Ilocano",
			["article"] = "Ilocano language",
		},

Special:Diff/1280064448#Alyansa para sa Bagong Pilipinas discusses a prominent politician's use of a term in regional vernacular that is unfamiliar to most of her constituents, wherein I added {{Wikt-lang}} to add a link to its definition on Wiktionary.

wikt: Special:Diff/84203784 reverts my apparently improper attempt on Wikt's side to make the link created by this template work. —Luisanton (talk) 09:41, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This edit request to Module:Wikt-lang/data has been answered. Set the |answered= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Add alg-pro for Proto-Algonquian. This is the code already used on Wiktionary, consisting of the prefix pro- for protolanguages plus the ISO 639-2 code alg for Algonquian. Hundreds of words and thousands of place names in American English derive from Algonquian languages, which in secondhand literature and on Wikipedia are often lumped together as "Algonquian" when the precise source language is either unknowable or unspecified due to laziness/confusion; Proto-Algonquian reconstructions are therefore mentioned fairly often and have enormous potential to increase as Wikipedia's etymology sections improve in quality.
Note that many other uncontroversial reconstructed languages are missing; the current set of codes for protolanguages represents exclusively a handful of European branches of Indo-European, plus Proto-Indo-European, and Proto-Semitic. This clear bias towards European traditional philology is not a good look for Wikipedia and should change in the near future.

(I guess) the following should be added to the data table variable in Module:Wikt-lang/data:

		["alg-pro"] = {
			["name"] = "Proto-Algonquian",
			["article"] = "Proto-Algonquian language",
		},

— Ganjabarah (talk) 01:48, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Sophisticatedevening🍷^(talk) 02:04, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]