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Edit request 28 March 2025

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Description of suggested change:

To add new reviewers for Official Dreamcast Magazine (UK) and Official Dreamcast Magazine (US)

As follows 

{ "''[[Official Dreamcast Magazine (UK)]]''", 'ODMUK' },
{ "''[[Official Dreamcast Magazine (US)]]''", 'ODMUS' }

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Coyg (talk • contribs) 06:58, March 28, 2025 (UTC)

Has this been discussed somewhere? If not I would suggest starting a discussion at WP:WPVG. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:18, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Coyg: Is there any news? Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 23:20, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile dark styles

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While looking at a review table in dark mode on my phone, I saw that the Awards section will display the table with a white font on a white background color, which renders it unreadable. The other Aggregate and Individual review tables display properly. Is there an issue with the Award table's CSS? (Guyinblack25 talk 03:23, 16 April 2025 (UTC))[reply]

Please link to an affected page. When I look at Template:Video game reviews#Multi-platform/column layout in the Vector 2022 dark mode (using the option in the sidebar), I see near-white on #d1dbdf for the Awards header and near-white on black for the body cells in the Awards section. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:58, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I saw this in NHL Hockey#Reception and Time Gal#Reception. However, I should specify that this is within the Wikipedia iOS app and not a browser app. Could it be the vgr-awards class? Here's a breakdown of what I'm seeing:
  • the text in the caption tag is black and the background is a dark grey
  • the text in the TH tags is black and the background is white
  • the text in the TD tags is white (unless it's linked then it's blue) and the background is white
Hope it helps. Thanks for looking into this. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:43, 16 April 2025 (UTC))[reply]
I don't have a way to test this, but it looks like this is almost enough information to report a bug. From what I am reading, the iOS app has at least three settings for the display mode: sepia, dark, and black. Which one of those, if any, do you have selected? Also, are you using the latest version of the iOS app from the Apple app store? – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonesey95 CSS and styling isn't my forte, but I think this should be fixed. Even on Desktop, I can see that the formatting for the "Awards" sections differ from "Aggregate Scores" and "Review Scores". I can't imagine any reason one section of the table should be formatted differently, so it should probably just be made to match. -- ferret (talk) 00:25, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonesey95: Regarding your questions, I am using the latest iOS and the latest version of the Wikipedia app from the App Store. I normally have it set to black, but I just tested it on all four modes: white, sepia, dark and black. Here is what I see:
  • Caption - the text remains black while the background color changes with the mode
  • TH content - the text is black and the background is a light grey (it looked white to me on the black setting before). This stays the same for all four modes.
  • TD content - the background remains light grey for all four modes. The text is black for the two lighter modes and switches to white for the two darker modes (unless it is linked, then it is blue for all four modes).
Hope this helps. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:04, 17 April 2025 (UTC))[reply]
It does help. Does the sandbox version at User:Jonesey95/sandbox look any better to you? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:45, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, the mobile app appears to be optimized for article space. When I navigate to anything in the user or template space, the app opens it via a web browser, which is using different settings. Not sure how else to test it, and I hate to suggest a live test with a template that is so widely used.
Also, I just noticed this. The "Reception" text with the "vgr-title" class remains black on desktop when I switch to dark mode via option sidebar. Oddly enough though, this text's font color switches just fine on the mobile app and in a mobile web browser. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC))[reply]
It sounds like the app is not as useful as just using a browser. I have reported this as T392246. I think the iOS app's dark mode should mirror the Vector 2022 dark mode. We'll see what the developers have to say. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Thank you very much for your help with this. And to be fair, the app is much better for reading and navigating articles than a mobile browser; editing isn't too bad either. But yes, there is certainly room for improvement. Thanks again. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:16, 17 April 2025 (UTC))[reply]

Unsupported parameter detection needed

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This template would benefit from detection of unsupported parameters like |rev 1= and |rev1score=, both of which are in use at this writing or were recently in use. They currently fail silently with no message to the editor, which is not ideal. Because there are so many possible combinations of supported parameter names, this detection should probably happen in Lua code rather than on the Template page, as would usually be done. The standard category name would be Category:Pages using Video game reviews with unsupported parameters, and should be applied only to pages in article space. I hope that someone has the time and ability to implement this improvement. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:41, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonesey95: Thanks. And that problem is because of case sensitivity, so maybe it would be worth changing the manual to more explicitly state that. Another item is that I guess the manual is mistaken, saying that the template only supports 10 custom reviews, but all 11 of them are rendering on Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (video game)#Reception! lol. Should that sentence be deleted from the docs or what? — Smuckola(talk) 00:00, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have updated the docs. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:50, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Averaging out detail scores

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The current instructions state that "If a review scores components of a game separately (but does not give an overall score) e.g Graphics 3/5, Sound 4/5, Gameplay 5/5 etc, add all the components together to reach a single score like 12/15, and add a footnote listing the individual scores."

Similar to how this was discussed with averaging out Famitsu scores, we should not be doing this per WP:STICKTOSOURCE which states " Source material should be carefully summarized or rephrased without changing its meaning or implication. Take care not to go beyond what the sources express or to use them in ways inconsistent with the intention of the source, such as using material out of context. In short, stick to the sources.". By averaging out a score, we are implying that the magazine gave a game an overall rating, which would be false. I would suggest simply removing this statement from the instructions page. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:37, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]