{
name = 'Executive Office of the President of the United States',
id = 'useop',
description = 'the [[Executive Office of the President of the United States]]',
reason = 'political',
ipv4Ranges = {
'165.119.0.0/16',
'198.137.240.0/23',
'204.68.207.0/24',
},
ipv6Ranges = {
'2620:10F:B000::/40',
},
},
This relates to a discussion at ANI (permalink). I forget the consequences of adding all these here but I seem to recall that the chief point is that blocking one of these IPs would give a warning to the blocking admin. What is the point? Why would we be more reluctant to block one of these IPs compared with any other where a bored person is filling time with what they think is fun? I would suggest waiting until the WMF ask to be notified when such an occurrence occurs. @Oshwah: What do you think? Johnuniq (talk) 04:36, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Johnuniq: I'm no Oshwah but replying anyways: per WP:SIP I think admins are supposed to notify WMF communications committee due to potential press implications when blocking. I don't think that this is a large change in terms of potential press impact: "Dept. of Defense" isn't very different from "Dept. of Justice" in that respect (if anything, DoJ probably would cause less press impact). Mdaniels5757 (talk) 04:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Blocking of IP addresses within the table requires that admin to follow the procedures outlined here. Given the fact that we have other similarly sensitive IP addresses on this table, I believe it would be advisable to add these ranges as well. I'm not sure as to whether or not the system uses the data in this table to warn you and force you to confirm the block first. If not, this should also be updated. ~Oshwah~(talk)(contribs)04:50, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But why? Has the WMF said they want to hear whenever one of these IPs is blocked? The IPs outlined at WP:SIP belong to high-power organizations and it makes sense that the WMF might want knowledge of their activity. Why should volunteers decide that an additional 218 million IP addresses require the same treatment? Why not add IPs used by defense forces in other countries? Johnuniq (talk) 05:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest that further discussion may be needed on this issue. This table was first created in 2006, a long time ago, and its entries seem to be arbitrarily selected. I would like to hear a justification of why some offices/countries are listed and not others. I also suggest contacting meta:Communications committee to ask if they have an opinion on which IP addresses should be regarded as sensitive. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Looping back to this, where are we? Assuming the addresses are correct (I haven't checked) is there a good reason we shouldn't be adding them in? It will only make sysops more informed, and it seems the WMF would appreciate it. ~ Amory(u • t • c)11:40, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What benefit would follow from this addition? Who in the WMF would appreciate it, and how is that known? Where is there a WMF statement specifying the criteria for sensitive IPs? Regarding a reason to not add them, consider the effect. Suppose an admin goes to block an IP in this range and they see some weird message about sensitive IPs. They need to spend ten minutes working out what that is all about, then deciding if they really want to block this ultra-special IP, then spend more time fiddling with a report. The report to the WMF will disappear into a blackhole. Johnuniq (talk) 22:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, they explained as much as we've got in that archive from 3.5 years ago, likewise at meta:Communications committee/Notable blocks. They were rather sparse as to the criteria — although admittedly any IP address that might be associated with a large government institution or agency, a corporation, or an IP address spanning a significant region is fairly broad (certainly moreso than we are currently) — and barring further input from someone (GVarnum-WMF maybe?) I simply couldn't say beyond this kind of deliberative process. ~ Amory(u • t • c)04:53, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Xaosflux I'm taking the absence of objection here to be consensus, but I'm unclear on the details of how to update the table. I got as far as #invoke:Sensitive IP addresses/summary|tableand wasn't sure where to go from there, since I don't know any Lua. Could you walk me through it? Or maybe just handle it for me :-) -- RoySmith(talk)16:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
2600:3c01::f03c:93ff:fe24:db1b, within 2600:3C00:0:0:0:0:0:0/30 is locally blocked (anon only) and globally blocked (anon only), then also whitelisted locally currently. — xaosfluxTalk03:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reason we don't sort the ranges in ascending numeric order? That would make it easier to scan when blocking IP addresses. — NaomiAmethyst20:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They are sorted by the entity, then numerically by ip. I don't think it would be as useful to sort by IP only, and have the entity names reused many times on a table. — xaosfluxTalk09:17, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Does anybody actually consult this list manually? I can't remember the last time I looked at this while implementing a block; probably never. You get an automated pop-up warning if you try to block any these, which is what I rely on, and I assume that's what everybody else does too. RoySmith(talk)12:02, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]