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Could this template be wrapped in a <div>? Using <ul> for a self-contained box of this sort is an abuse of semantic HTML. Other templates similar to this one tend to use <div> or <table> elements (although I don't recommend the latter in this case). I noticed this issue when some code I wrote to extract the "text content" of a Wikipedia article was failing to filter out this template. Ioaxxere (talk) 04:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, File:EF4DaltonMNtornadoJuly2020.png was deleted from commons 3 December 2024 and now causing 100+ file errors in articles. A possible alternate is file:F5 tornado Elie Manitoba 2007.jpg as currently used on Tornado. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 19:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updated. -- WOSlinker (talk) 19:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Several portals do not exist and need removal, including the African diaspora portal and the Yoruba portal. Ukabia - talk 17:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, can you add an icon image to my newly created Portal:2020s? The existing portal box still uses the old icon image.

Ibrahim Muizzuddin 💬 15:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibrahim Muizzuddin: did you have a suggestion for a new portal image to use? — hike395 (talk) 14:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Hike395, I would like to propose this image File:Human brain blue circuit white background artificial intelligence icon (DALL- E) Dec 2024.jpg as the icon picture for the new portal. -Ibrahim Muizzuddin 💬 05:22, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good choice: , although it looks just like a brain at 28px. — hike395 (talk) 06:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — hike395 (talk) 06:08, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please change the icon for Portal:Seoul from File:Flag of Seoul cropped.gif to File:Flag of Seoul.svg. --Namoroka (talk) 10:40, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reasoning behind the change? The colors of File:Flag of Seoul cropped.gif are taken from the original flag at [1], while File:Flag of Seoul.svg is slightly different, which seems less good. The svg version also has a 3:2 aspect ratio, which makes it appear smaller than the 1:1 aspect ratio of the gif file. — hike395 (talk) 14:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings and felicitations. Would someone please be so kind as to modify the template so that when it is positioned on the left the rest of the content in the section is below it as with the {{subst:Commons}} template, rather than having the content start next to the Portal template box? See USNS_Yukon_(T-AO-202)#External_links for an example. (I am in desktop mode; more information upon request.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 11:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you are pushing the Portal box to the left and want the text to flow around it, I suspect you should be using a different template entirely. If the link to the portal is in a "See also" section, I would recommend {{Portal-inline}}. If there is no existing "See also" section and you want to put the portal into an "External links" section, please use {{Portal bar}} after the navboxes (or perhaps {{Subject bar}} if you want to place several sister links, also). — hike395 (talk) 14:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Later --- I went ahead and converted the left-placed Commons box at USNS_Yukon_(T-AO-202)#External_links to {{Commons-inline}}, since I think it looks better that way. — hike395 (talk) 14:22, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The option is there, and in some article's "See also" sections, especially short ones in wide browser windows, an infobox or other object intrudes into the section, and the portal template would (as with USNS Yukon (T-AO-202)) get pushes to the bottom. I do use inline templates, but I refer the regular ones if I can use them without detriment to the article, in part because they are larger and thus more visible. —DocWatson42 (talk) 21:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are 236 articles that use |left=. I'll investigate to make sure we don't break those with any change in the behavior.

I would still recommend {{portal bar}} specifically for USNS Yukon (T-AO-202). — hike395 (talk) 02:49, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DocWatson42: Apparently, people are using {{clear left}} immediately after the left-floating portal box to get the behavior you want. I think I introduced the left floating behavior in 2022 and it doesn't seem like the right thing. I would suggest using {{clear left}} for now, and I'll see if I can figure out an elegant fix. — hike395 (talk) 03:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Thank you. :-) —DocWatson42 (talk) 08:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There was no portal for the Yukon article—I just used it as an example of the Commons template's behavior. —DocWatson42 (talk) 08:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Generally: Thank you for the change. ^_^ —DocWatson42 (talk) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Request

please delete lines 41 and 42 from Module:Portal/styles.css under .portalleft that set clear: left and float: left

Reasoning

In 2022, I changed the css for the case of {{Portal|left=yes}} to make the portal box float left (as well as float right). The post-2022 behavior is viewable at the "Adaptive layout, left=yes" testcase. As can be seen at this PetScan run, editors are not using the template as a floating left box, but instead are adding {{clear left}} or putting the box before a full-width to attempt to avoid the float. Clearly the 2022 change in behavior did not match editor expectations. This edit will revert the template with |left=yes back to the pre-2022 behavior.

Testing

The proposed behavior is implemented in sandbox CSS and is viewable under the sandbox version at the "Adaptive layout, left=yes" testcase

@Pppery: who offered to review edits for this module. — hike395 (talk) 17:41, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I request to change

["paleontology"] = "Allosaurus Jardin des Plantes.png|link=|alt=icon",

to

["paleontology"] = "Pleuroceras ammonite with no background.png|link=|alt=icon",

in Module:Portal/images/p.

Reason: We just discussed at the WikiProject Palaeontology that the current image is inappropriate and has to be changed. The image page has a warning template marking it as "inaccurate" and saying that it should only be used to illustrate "obsolete paleontological views". It is also very difficult to see at small thumb size. Our proposed replacement image, which has just been prepared by user:FunkMonk, instead shows an iconic paleontological fossil that is easily recognisable. Thank you. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC) Jens Lallensack (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jens Lallensack: could you provide a link to the discussion? — hike395 (talk) 01:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion was held informally on Discord. Jens is in the process of putting up a proper on-wiki discussion. Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is now. Has four supports and no opposes at the moment. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 02:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 19:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The file File:Marquette, Kansas EF4 tornado on April 14, 2012.png, formerly used as the icon for the Severe weather portal, has been deleted from Commons. Could someone do something about that? Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 06:02, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A coloured voting box with South Korea gorvernment emblem.svg|thumb|A yellow coloured voting box with South Korea government emblem.

May i add this image?

it used at Politics of South Korea portal]]

["politics of south korea"] = "A coloured voting box with South Korea gorvernment emblem.svg|link=|alt=icon"

Whatback11 (talk) 10:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It would look like this:

A coloured voting box with South Korea gorvernment emblem.svg

It may be a bit too busy to be comprehensible at 28px? — hike395 (talk) 10:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 18:36, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When viewing Template:Education in the U.S., there is a black icon for the Education portal, which in dark mode is very hard to see on a dark grey background. Normally I'd just set "class=skin-invert-image" on the image, which would make it white when viewed in dark mode, but I don't see a way to do that with the portal template system. Perhaps images that need this should be set in the image database and the module should handle that? -- Beland (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Beland: There is a way to do it with the portal template system, by adding the class to the image specification at Module:Portal/images/e, see here. I don't use dark mode, can you check to see if this worked? — hike395 (talk) 09:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, it doesn't work because of a limitation in Module:Portal-inline. I'll think about how to fix this. — hike395 (talk) 09:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Action requested: Please copy Module:Portal/sandbox to Module:Portal

Description of suggested change: Currently, portal icons are not responsive to dark mode, which is a serious problem for portals like Education portal.

A good way to fix this is to allow editors to add class=skin-invert-image to the filespec in Module:Portal/images (see, e.g., [2]). However, the current code in Module:Portal interferes with this, because it appends class=noviewer to the filespec which overrides any class specified in Module:Portal/images.

The fix is contained in the new function noviewer(), which examines the filespec. If there is already a class specified, it adds "noviewer" to the list of classes. Otherwise, it just appends class=skin-invert-image. I added this to both p._portal() and p._demo().

In addition, I decided to centralize the handling of image classes here in Module:Portal. Thus, I added noviewer() to p._image(), and will edit Module:Portal-inline and Module:Portal bar appropriately if this change gets approved.

The change is tested in Template:Portal/testcases and Template:Portal image/testcases, where the behavior is as-expected.

Pinging @Pppery for their attention. Thanks for considering!

Diff: compare Module:Portal to Module:Portal/sandbox — hike395 (talk) 15:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:36, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery, @Hike395, I've reverted the change because it was rendering an error (Lua error in Module:Portal at line 211: assign to undeclared variable 'hasClass'.) in articles, including Chinese characters and Rodrigo Duterte (these are just some of the pages I looked at). I have no thoughts on the change itself, but I've undone the it pending a fix, since this is a very high-profile module. Feel free to reinstate it once the issue is solved. Thanks, Giraffer (talk) 17:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The source of the problem was that Module:Portal bar calls this module in strict mode, which broken, and wasn't tested by either me or Hike395. Reapplied a version that doesn't break that template, hope it now works. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, Pppery. It appears to work now: errors are being fixed as the pages are being purged. — hike395 (talk) 18:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]